[sami] 答复: First SAMI email in the new year, can we go further? Look forward to your opinions.

"Dacheng Zhang(Dacheng)" <zhangdacheng@huawei.com> Fri, 02 March 2012 02:32 UTC

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>> 
>> Lets assume VM migration happens today (which I am fine to assume - I
>> am however unsure how frequent live migration takes place and hence
>> whether its worth to optimize for it).
[Dacheng Zhang] I think this will happen quite frequently in some conditions. Assume for energy conversation purpose at night an operator of a DC can move active VMs to several physical servers and switch other physical servers off. In this case, migration will happen very day.

>> 
>> That said, this assumption alone does not necessarily imply there is a
>> state migration problem worth to be solved by the IETF. I am missing
>> statements from VMware engineers (since you mention VMotion) or the
>> like where they explain how IETF protocol work can help them to make
>> their migration solutions work even better as they do.
[Dacheng Zhang] 
Agree. If we all agree that VM migration is happening or will happen in DC, it is the right time to discuss where there are any important scenarios where state migration across network side devices is necessary.

By the way, there is a Cisco white paper " Virtual Machine Mobility with Vmware VMotion and Cisco Data Center Interconnect Technologies". I personally think it is quite interesting. Anybody having interests can download it and have a look. ^_^


Cheers

Dacheng