Re: [sami] Bringing new work into the IETF

Benson Schliesser <bschlies@cisco.com> Mon, 22 August 2011 15:34 UTC

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Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:35:44 -0500
From: Benson Schliesser <bschlies@cisco.com>
To: "So, Ning" <ning.so@verizon.com>, Thomas Narten <narten@us.ibm.com>
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Hi, Ning.

On 8/22/11 8:52 AM, "So, Ning" <ning.so@verizon.com> wrote:
>> Thomas Narten said:
> Are you saying you want interoperabilty between hypervisors? That is, You want
> to be able to move a VM from hypervisor type A (i.e, from vendor A) to a
> hypervisor of type B (i.e,. from Vendor B), and you'd like the IETF to develop
> standards that allow this?
> 
> [Ning]:  Yes. 
> ...
> [Ning]:  It is important to have a common agreement on requirements.  I stated
> my opinion and use case.  I will reach out to the carriers I have been work
> with in other areas to see if they also have the similar requirements.  If it
> is true, then IETF has to play a key role in this.  Other SDO such as DMTF
> will also play a key role.  I hope the use cases and requirements can drive
> player agreement/participation, especially secondary players.

It's good that you mention the DMTF.  You should also investigate other
groups such as ODCA (http://www.opendatacenteralliance.org/), which has a
working group on this topic.

Assuming that hypervisor compatibility, control APIs, etc, are worked out in
a different forum - what role do you think the IETF has in this space?  I
have my own thoughts on this topic, but I don't want to put words in your
mouth. Can you be specific?

Thanks,
-Benson