Re: [sami] Bringing new work into the IETF
"So, Ning" <ning.so@verizon.com> Mon, 22 August 2011 18:48 UTC
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Benson, Thank you for bringing ODCA to my attention. I have had very limited exposure to DMTF, and no exposure to ODCA at all. After reading a bit more on their work, those SDOs appear to be better places for the type of work I have in mind. I cannot cover those SDOs, so I will alert internally to have other people involved. Best regards, Ning So Verizon Corporate Technology (office) 972-729-7905 (Cell) 972-955-0914 -----Original Message----- From: Benson Schliesser [mailto:bschlies@cisco.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 10:36 AM To: So, Ning; Thomas Narten Cc: sami@ietf.org Subject: Re: [sami] Bringing new work into the IETF Hi, Ning. On 8/22/11 8:52 AM, "So, Ning" <ning.so@verizon.com> wrote: >> Thomas Narten said: > Are you saying you want interoperabilty between hypervisors? That is, > You want to be able to move a VM from hypervisor type A (i.e, from > vendor A) to a hypervisor of type B (i.e,. from Vendor B), and you'd > like the IETF to develop standards that allow this? > > [Ning]: Yes. > ... > [Ning]: It is important to have a common agreement on requirements. > I stated my opinion and use case. I will reach out to the carriers I > have been work with in other areas to see if they also have the > similar requirements. If it is true, then IETF has to play a key role > in this. Other SDO such as DMTF will also play a key role. I hope > the use cases and requirements can drive player agreement/participation, especially secondary players. It's good that you mention the DMTF. You should also investigate other groups such as ODCA (http://www.opendatacenteralliance.org/), which has a working group on this topic. Assuming that hypervisor compatibility, control APIs, etc, are worked out in a different forum - what role do you think the IETF has in this space? I have my own thoughts on this topic, but I don't want to put words in your mouth. Can you be specific? Thanks, -Benson
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