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Re: [Sat] stage0 message exchange diagram

Venkatraman Ramakrishna <vramakr2@in.ibm.com> Tue, 21 March 2023 10:59 UTC

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From: Venkatraman Ramakrishna <vramakr2@in.ibm.com>
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My answers:

  1.  Yes, they refer to the same things. We should use consistent terminology here; I prefer either Ledger or State DB and not "system", which we use interchangeably with "network" in the charter and in the drafts.
  2.  Step 4 is supposed to be oblivious to the gateway. I don't think we need to prescribe a standard transport mechanism, since it is out of scope for the current SATP, but I imagine we can use HTTP or GRPC.

Rama

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Sat] stage0 message exchange diagram

Hi: I have some questions on the Stage 0 message exchange: Are system1 and system2 the same as State Data DB1 and DB2 given in the SATP Message Flow Diagram? How is the step 4 message "propagateTransferContext" sent from client1App
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Hi:
   I have some questions on the Stage 0 message exchange:


  1.  Are system1 and system2 the same as State  Data DB1 and DB2 given in the SATP Message Flow Diagram?
  2.  How is the step 4 message "propagateTransferContext" sent from client1App to client2App?

Does the message pass through gateway1 and gateway2?  If not what is   the underlying transport mechanism?

David Millman

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