Re: [savi] Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-savi-threat-scope-06

Ted Lemon <Ted.Lemon@nominum.com> Thu, 28 March 2013 02:56 UTC

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Subject: Re: [savi] Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-savi-threat-scope-06
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On Mar 27, 2013, at 12:45 PM, Joel Halpern Direct <jmh.direct@joelhalpern.com> wrote:

> Then it will be done.  I will wait for the AD to decide what other changes are needed, and then will either make this change or include it in an RFC Editor note.

> Old:
>   If the bridging topologies which connects the switches changes, or
>   if LACP [IEEE802.3ad] changes which links are used to deliver
>   traffic, the switch may need to move the SAVI state to a different
>   port, are the state may need to be moved or reestablished on a
>   different switch.
> New:
>   If the bridging topologies which connects the switches changes, or
>   if LACP [IEEE802.3ad], VRRP, or other link management
>   operations, change which links are used to deliver
>   traffic, the switch may need to move the SAVI state to a different
>   port, are the state may need to be moved or reestablished on a
>   different switch.

I think you probably meant "or", not "are", in the second word of the second-to-last line of the new text.

As far as I am concerned, given that David is happy with your recent change, I'm happy with it too.   However, since you are asking, if you were willing to also accommodate David's other request (see below) by adding some text to the document in section 5, that would be an added bonus:

> A paragraph has been added to 5.2.3 to address all three of the above concerns.   I guess that's ok, but I would have liked to see some text pointing out that a MAC move can be detected by the switches and used to update SAVI state about which port(s) a MAC is accessed through.

So if you can do this, it would be much appreciated; if you can't do it, I think the document is valuable enough to move forward without this additional work.