Re: [scale] new updated slides

Loa Andersson <> Fri, 06 December 2013 05:59 UTC

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I tried to explain my view of why drafts are listed in a previous
mail, don't know if that works for everyone. If we find we want to
work with the list rather than or in parallel to a problem statement
I would be happy to add and delete drafts as necessary, based on
whether the contain relevant info or not.

On rearranging the list, my response from the reptile brain would be
"please supply text", meaning take the slide and edit it to what you
want it to be.

I've a friend that use to say "If you are talking about a specific
horse called 'Brunte' (yes that is a common name of Swedish horses),
talk about and name him 'Brunte'! Don ot talk about a "quadruped animal
of the Equus genus in the family of Equidae".

Meaning, yes I for be as specific as possible!


On 2013-12-02 18:54, wrote:
> Hi Loa, Lou,
> I'm unsure about many drafts that are (still) listed, and that to me, do
> not address scaling in particular. Among them:
> - draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system-02
> - draft-xu-l3vpn-virtual-subnet
> - draft-sd-l2vpn-evpn-overlay
> - draft-rabadan-l2vpn-evpn-prefix-advertisement
> If these drafts are really believed to relate to scaling in some
> specific way, then I believe that how they do would deserve to be made
> explicit.
> Also factoring-out in one item the set of drafts around the big label
> proposal would increase readability.
> Second, in the possible concerns listed on slide 3:
> - scaling wrt. the number of VRFs/VSIs/EVIs on a said PE is probably
> another relevant metric
> - talking about "size of a VPN" sounds vague : maybe talk more
> specifically about "number of sites, CEs, VRFs, prefixes, MACs,
> multicast states -- per VPN" would be better
> Thanks,
> -Thomas
> Loa Andersson :
>> Folks,
>> Lou and I have been editing the slides a bit. Please review and comment.
>> Next step will be to start working on the problem statement and we will
>> need help with that. If you are interested please get in contact with
>> us.
>> /Loa and Lou
>> _______________________________________________
>> scale mailing list
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