Re: [scap_interest] Scope of standards potentially moving to IETF

<Kent_Landfield@McAfee.com> Wed, 15 February 2012 16:51 UTC

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Aharon,

Please take a look at the http://www.ietf.org/tao.html.  At the IETF, those who participate do so as individuals.  You can participate (you are now) and make your opinion's known.  And when we get to a point where we are actually making decisions, your opinion and all who are participating, regardless of what they do in the outside world,  are accounted for…

One of the more important things those joining from the SCAP community need to do is to make sure and learn how the IETF works.

The document above will help…

Kent Landfield
Director Content Strategy, Architecture and Standards

McAfee | An Intel Company
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From: Michael Aharon Chernin <mchernin@dtcc.com<mailto:mchernin@dtcc.com>>
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 08:53:02 -0600
To: Kent Landfield <kent_landfield@mcafee.com<mailto:kent_landfield@mcafee.com>>, "scap_interest@ietf.org<mailto:scap_interest@ietf.org>" <scap_interest@ietf.org<mailto:scap_interest@ietf.org>>
Subject: RE: [scap_interest] Scope of standards potentially moving to IETF

Kent, understood. Like the vendors, I do agree that certain standards need to go to IETF. But, today the only people that would be voting during IETF calls would be the federal government and security tool vendors. I am going to be hesitant in supporting a move of all standards until there are standards consumers (private sector customers) who will also be participating in IETF voting. I am trying to balance rapid development of standards using the IETF and complete vendor control of all standards. Once I see more consumer activity during voting, I will be more supportive of a large number of standards moving IETF.

I know I am early and jumping the gun on this, but I just wanted to get my story out there. At this time no standards have been specifically identified and no specific action is required at this time.

Aharon

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Subject: Re: [scap_interest] Scope of standards potentially moving to IETF

>From my perspective TBD.

There are some that are unencumbered from and IPR perspective and those are potential candidates. Others will have to move as the appropriate consensus  is achieved and IPR issues are addressed.

The idea here from my perspective is to figure that out.

Kent Landfield
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From: Michael Aharon Chernin <mchernin@dtcc.com<mailto:mchernin@dtcc.com>>
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 16:04:43 -0600
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Subject: [scap_interest] Scope of standards potentially moving to IETF

I am just going to jump right on out there and ask. Which standards are we looking to go to IETF? Specific SCAP standards or the entire SCAP umbrella?

Aharon

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