Re: [scim] [EXTERNAL] Re: Feedback and adoption readiness for draft-zollner-scim-roles-entitlements-extension

Hi Chad,

I recall receiving this same feedback previously and in the next version of the draft (perhaps the first new version post-adoption?) language will be added to explicitly call out the use of common attributes. If I were to split hairs here, I’d argue that even without the draft explicitly calling them out, the text in 7643 3.1 states that those attributes are required to exist on all resource types including new extensions like the ones in this draft. It is a mistake to not explicitly call out the correct usage of those attributes in this draft, though, so it will be fixed.

Thanks,

Danny Zollner (He/Him)

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I love this - we use roles currently and having a more formal spec and ability for the client to read what's available could come in very handy in the future.  So mark me down as a 5.

However, these resources not including the common attributes set mandated by RFC 7643 section 3.1 should be explained/clarified in the RFC.  The Apache SCIMple library will have to handle these resources as special-cases since they won't have the required "id" field, for example.  That seems major enough to justify a paragraph.

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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2022 23:40:10 +0000
Subject: [scim] Feedback and adoption readiness for draft-zollner-scim-roles-entitlements-extension

Hello SCIMers,

We need feedback on to gauge support and adoption readiness of:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zollner-scim-roles-entitlements-extension/<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdatatracker.ietf.org%2Fdoc%2Fdraft-zollner-scim-roles-entitlements-extension%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cdanny.zollner%40microsoft.com%7Ca11aede3fdb54846b08b08dabddfa397%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C638031065521821498%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=rh2rD2ai4JphkRpxltG1sVgpXPy5ZuOs8xr4FSmvAl0%3D&reserved=0>

Please respond to this thread on the following:

  1.  You have read the draft and believe it is ready to be adopted by the working group. Any other feedback on the content of the draft is welcomed too.

  2.  You are willing to be an active contributor or reviewer of the document

  4.  You support the draft and plan to implement

  5.  You support the draft but have no time or plans to implement now, but can provide feedback

  6.  You have no interest in the draft

Please provide your feedback by November 28th.

Thanks,

   Nancy

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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2022 16:50:26 -0700
Subject: Re: [scim] Feedback and adoption readiness for draft-zollner-scim-roles-entitlements-extension
#4 for me.
Thanks,
--Paul
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On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 4:40 PM Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing) <ncamwing=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote: