Re: [scim] What if created and lastModified are not populated in the app?

The timestamps are used mainly for change detection so that clients can detect if the resource has changed since it was last retrieved. 

There may be other information uses such as recording when the account was opened. 

You could use a calculated (eg as in current time) or dummy date but keep in mind how clients might react to ever changing or never changing values. 

Phil

> On Jun 20, 2022, at 3:31 AM, Pierre Ozoux <pierre@ozoux.net> wrote:
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> 
> Hi!
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> 
> I'm implementing a scim service provider for the free software Nextcloud, but I miss 2 informations for users:
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>  - created
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>  - lastModified
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> 
> Reading rfc7643 it says that:
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>       created  The "DateTime" that the resource was added to the service
>          provider.  This attribute MUST be a DateTime.
> 
>       lastModified  The most recent DateTime that the details of this
>          resource were updated at the service provider.  If this
>          resource has never been modified since its initial creation,
>          the value MUST be the same as the value of "created".
> 
> I also read: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc3339 but there is no option for a standard but null date.
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> Should I set it to year 0000, or to beginning of unix epoch?
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> 
> (I also searched the ML, but the tool to search is really slow, couldn't really use it.)
> 
> Thanks for your help and have a nice day!
> 
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