[Scone] Re: Number of sessions is needed for the SCOPE

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To: Vasilenko Eduard <vasilenko.eduard=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, "scone@ietf.org" <scone@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: Number of sessions is needed for the SCOPE
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Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2024 13:40:24 +0000
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Subject: [Scone] Re: Number of sessions is needed for the SCOPE
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Hi Eduard,

Can you please clarify which spec are you referring to? (as there is no “the SCONE specification”)

Thanks.

Cheers,
Med

De : Vasilenko Eduard <vasilenko.eduard=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Envoyé : vendredi 22 novembre 2024 14:10
À : scone@ietf.org
Objet : [Scone] Number of sessions is needed for the SCOPE

Hi Experts,
IMHO: you are missing the critical parameter in the SCONE specification: the number of sessions on the bottleneck scheduler (it looks like the scheduler is called “flow policy” in the draft).

Per-flow performance is not possible for hardware routers and switches – it is too expensive, hardware routers are 3x cheaper, switches are 5x cheaper compared to flow-based devices (FW, IPS, DPI, LB, etc).

Per-scheduler performance (possible for routers and switches) is useless without knowing how many flows are sharing it. It is a divider to understand what is possible to push for the particular flow on the host.

Of course, it is a big challenge to how hardware routers or switches would calculate the number of sessions. But better to push the problem out of SCOPE territory.
It would be possible to say: “SCOPE will be ready when the hardware router would be ready”. (if ever)

IMHO: it is better to include “the number of sessions” in the SCOPE specification.

PS: Software routers are typically multi-functional our days (IPS, DPI, and everything else on board), flow-based forwarding is possible.
Moreover, all 3GPP wireless IP forwarding is based on software only – no acceleration has been done for 3GPP.
Unfortunately, fixed broadband is based on BRAS/BNG which is actually a hardware router – it could not be flow-based.

Best Regards
Eduard Vasilenko
Senior Architect
Network Algorithm Laboratory
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