RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements
"Trossen Dirk (NRC/Boston)" <Dirk.Trossen@nokia.com> Fri, 11 January 2002 16:56 UTC
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From: "Trossen Dirk (NRC/Boston)" <Dirk.Trossen@nokia.com>
To: "'ext Hesham Soliman (ERA)'" <hesham.soliman@era.ericsson.se>, Phillip Neumiller <PNeumiller@meshnetworks.com>, Govind Krishnamurthi <govs23@hotmail.com>, seamoby@ietf.org
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Hi Phil and Hesham, some comments: - requirements shouldn't mandate certain solutions. What Phil proposed was to make certain solutions mandatory. This is not about being vague or not. This is retricting the solutions (maybe for a certain reason). - making the 'usage' or 'accomodation' of mobility management features a MUST restricts the solution space, too. Is a solution prohibited, only because it does not rely on certain mobility management features, even if the solution might be easier? Regards, Dirk > -----Original Message----- > From: ext Hesham Soliman (ERA) [mailto:hesham.soliman@era.ericsson.se] > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 11:18 AM > To: Phillip Neumiller; Hesham Soliman (ERA); Trossen Dirk > (NRC/Boston); > Govind Krishnamurthi; seamoby@ietf.org > Cc: Krishnamurthi Govind (NRC/Boston) > Subject: RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements > > > Phil, > > > We seem to dance around in abstract space a lot in this WG. > > => Really ! :) > > > Isn't it time > > to get down to brass tacks? MIP has an implied > > architecture and it is not > > going away. Neither are many of the MANET protocols. What > > ever happened > > to the "running code" idea anyway? I don't see why we > have to be so > > very vague (which is occuring strictly to be pedantic about > > requirement- > > speak). There is an old adage that states if its not > > "testable" its not > > a requirement. > > => I agree, we should have clear and 'easy to test' > requirements. I was only explaining in generic terms > that requirements should not mandate solutions. In this > particular case, all I care about is that no optimisations > or features of existing MIP/MANET stuff is lost. > I don't care how it's done. > > Hesham > > > _______________________________________________ > Seamoby mailing list > Seamoby@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby > _______________________________________________ Seamoby mailing list Seamoby@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Govind Krishnamurthi
- [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Govind Krishnamurthi
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Phillip Neumiller
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Trossen Dirk (NRC/Boston)
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Govind Krishnamurthi
- Re: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements pdn (N9FCW) in FL
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Hesham Soliman (ERA)
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Trossen Dirk (NRC/Boston)
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Hesham Soliman (ERA)
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Phillip Neumiller
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Hesham Soliman (ERA)
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Trossen Dirk (NRC/Boston)
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Govind Krishnamurthi
- Re: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements James Kempf
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Hesham Soliman (ERA)
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Hesham Soliman (ERA)
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Trossen Dirk (NRC/Boston)
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Hesham Soliman (ERA)
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Govind Krishnamurthi
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Trossen Dirk (NRC/Boston)
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Phillip Neumiller
- [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements James Kempf
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Trossen Dirk (NRC/Boston)
- Re: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements John Schnizlein
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Trossen Dirk (NRC/Boston)
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Hesham Soliman (ERA)
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements John Schnizlein
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements John Schnizlein
- Re: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements James Kempf
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Gary Kenward
- Re: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements John Schnizlein
- Re: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Govind Krishnamurthi
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Govind Krishnamurthi
- Re: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements James Kempf
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Trossen Dirk (NRC/Boston)
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Hemant Chaskar
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Hesham Soliman (ERA)
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Hesham Soliman (ERA)
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Trossen Dirk (NRC/Boston)
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- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Govind Krishnamurthi
- Re: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements James Kempf
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- Re: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements James Kempf
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- Re: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements James Kempf
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