Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description
Vijay Devarapalli <vijayd@iprg.nokia.com> Thu, 17 January 2002 22:04 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description
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it doesnt matter now. James Kempf has started a separate thread. I guess opinions sent on that thread alone will count. Vijay Behcet Sarikaya wrote: > > Vijay, > Really? Let me copy your email you sent on Jan. 14 : > > > Hi Jim, > > just one comment. > > James Kempf wrote: > > > >> > > >> > Behcet, > >> > > >> > Up until now, the only people who have expressed > >> > an opinion about the paging protocol decision were authors of > >> protocols > >> > that > >> > were not selected. One could, quite frankly, view this as "sour > >> grapes" > >> > on their part for not having been selected. However, > >> > > People spend a lot of their time to come up with proposals. > > and they also hope that their proposal goes somewhere in the > > WG. and when the protocol assessment turns out to be murky > > and they complain, I dont think it is right to call them > > "sour grapes". > > Vijay > > > Was this not Vijay Devarapalli? If not then my apologies. > > Vijay Devarapalli wrote: > > > Behcet, > > You are quoting me out of context.... my comment was not about > > the protocol assessment. > > Vijay > > Behcet Sarikaya wrote: > > > >> Several people not authors of proposals (Vijay, Rene) voiced their > >> concern on the murky assessment, or am I wrong, or are you waiting > >> for > >> the sky to fall down? > >> To be on the positive side, we can offer Majordomo based mailing > >> list > >> support for the design team, if only with no WG draft. > >> Take it or leave it. > >> James Kempf wrote: > >> > >> > Any such decision is always subject to WG concensus. > >> > Unfortunately, the only voice we are hearing on the mailing list > >> > right now is yours. One voice isn't enough for concensus, nor > >> > is text from a private email forwarded and posted apparently > >> > without the > >> > author's permission. Goodness knows, we have enough vocal > >> > people on this list. It took us a year to get CT requirements > >> > done (and we still don't have them in IESG Last Call!) because > >> > everybody had an opinion. If I were seeing some of these people, > >> > who > >> > were not authors of competing proposals coming forward and > >> > saying that we should change the decison, it would be another > >> > matter. > >> > jak > >> > > >> -- > >> Behcet > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Seamoby mailing list > >> Seamoby@ietf.org > >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Seamoby mailing list > > Seamoby@ietf.org > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby > > > > -- > Behcet _______________________________________________ Seamoby mailing list Seamoby@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Behcet Sarikaya
- RE: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Pat R. Calhoun
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Cedric Westphal
- RE: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Pat R. Calhoun
- RE: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Pat R. Calhoun
- RE: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Hesham Soliman (ERA)
- [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description James Kempf
- RE: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Pat R. Calhoun
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Cedric Westphal
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Cedric Westphal
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Vijay Devarapalli
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description James Kempf
- RE: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Rajeev Koodli
- RE: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Muhammad Jaseemuddin
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Vijay Devarapalli
- RE: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Chitrapu, Prabhakar R
- RE: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1
- RE: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Pat R. Calhoun
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Rajeev Koodli
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Behcet Sarikaya
- RE: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Hesham Soliman (ERA)
- RE: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1