RE: [Seamoby] RE: [NSIS] Re: draft-westphal-nsis-qos-mobileip-00. txt
Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1 <Madjid.Nakhjiri@motorola.com> Wed, 10 July 2002 19:05 UTC
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From: Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1 <Madjid.Nakhjiri@motorola.com>
To: 'James Kempf' <kempf@docomolabs-usa.com>, Rajeev Koodli <rajeev@iprg.nokia.com>, Hemant.Chaskar@nokia.com
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Subject: RE: [Seamoby] RE: [NSIS] Re: draft-westphal-nsis-qos-mobileip-00. txt
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:58:59 -0500
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James, As much as I like to see a clean interaction between CT and NSIS, I don't see any reason why CT needs to play the role of NSIS optimization, not to forget the NSIS didn't even exist back then. CT is simply a tool you need in your seamless mobility toolbox, it eventually involved into a container carrying any context you like (even non-IP context, as long as it is feasible). The profile types, that Rajeev mentioned is aligned with this line of thinking. I seriously advise against going back and change CT requirements for the sake of optimizing NSIS, which at this point we don't know what it is. A couple of months from now, we have to revise CT because of a security related protocol, later for something else..... The later we wait for CT standardization, the more home brewed versions are going to pop up, just like Behcet mentioned. My 1.5 cents (lower dollars) Madjid -----Original Message----- From: James Kempf [mailto:kempf@docomolabs-usa.com] Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 4:37 PM To: Rajeev Koodli; Hemant.Chaskar@nokia.com Cc: gkenward@nortelnetworks.com; seamoby@ietf.org; nsis@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Seamoby] RE: [NSIS] Re: draft-westphal-nsis-qos-mobileip-00.txt > CT is an optimization to avoid signaling and the associated overheads, and maintain > desirable transport (RTP/TCP)performance. A historical note: CT was not designed > to be an optimization for NSIS. > Do you mean that the requirements weren't so designed? Because, to my knowledge, the WG has not yet settled on a design. We are currently awaiting IESG feedback on our requirements. The problem statement was just approved by the IESG. jak _______________________________________________ Seamoby mailing list Seamoby@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby _______________________________________________ Seamoby mailing list Seamoby@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby
- RE: [Seamoby] RE: [NSIS] Re: draft-westphal-nsis-… Gary Kenward
- RE: [Seamoby] RE: [NSIS] Re: draft-westphal-nsis-… Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1
- Re: [Seamoby] RE: [NSIS] Re: draft-westphal-nsis-… James Kempf
- RE: [Seamoby] RE: [NSIS] Re: draft-westphal-nsis-… Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1
- RE: [Seamoby] RE: [NSIS] Re: draft-westphal-nsis-… Geib, Ruediger
- RE: [Seamoby] RE: [NSIS] Re: draft-westphal-nsis-… Gary Kenward
- Re: [Seamoby] RE: [NSIS] Re: draft-westphal-nsis-… James Kempf
- RE: [Seamoby] RE: [NSIS] Re: draft-westphal-nsis-… Gary Kenward
- Re: [Seamoby] RE: [NSIS] Re: draft-westphal-nsis-… James Kempf
- RE: [Seamoby] RE: [NSIS] Re: draft-westphal-nsis-… john.loughney
- Re: [Seamoby] RE: [NSIS] Re: draft-westphal-nsis-… James Kempf
- RE: [Seamoby] RE: [NSIS] Re: draft-westphal-nsis-… Geib, Ruediger