RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements
Dirk.Trossen@nokia.com Thu, 14 March 2002 17:07 UTC
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Subject: RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements
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Hi Madjid, I'm not saying that MN's requirements have to be spelled out again. 'Means to express the requirements' includes some mechanisms to define these requirements somehow and the means that they can be used as an input to the CAR discovery protocol. It is certainly possible that the first part is done by currently existing protocols, but the requirement merely states that the means are mandatory for the CAR discovery solution, otherwise it cannot fulfil its task. Maybe, here's some confusion in general sometimes that the requirements always mandate NEW functionality. This is not the case. The requirements merely describe the functionality that is needed to do the job. Whether or not this will be done in the final proposal by existing protocols, modifications to existing ones, or new mechanisms is out of the scope of the requirements. Regards, Dirk -----Original Message----- From: ext Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1 [mailto:Madjid.Nakhjiri@motorola.com] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:59 AM To: Trossen Dirk (NRC/Boston); seamoby@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Sorry for the late response, isn't MN's requirement spelled out in MN's user profile or SLA or something else recorded in the policy server of the MN's network? why does the MN has to express them again. if the new network needs it (I don't know why it would in a CAR selection), then it can get it from old network, if the old network needs, it gets it from policy server. I think what this should concentrate on is: CAR discovery protocol MUST provide means for signaling parameters needed for a TAR selection mechanims (regardless of whether it is done at MN or at AR). I know that the selection process is out of scope, but providing input for it should be in scope. signaling MN's requirements for service is a different issue. Regards, Madjid "3.xx Providing MN's requirement for Determination of CARs The fundamental task of CAR discovery is to determine candidate access routers (from the set of GAARs) that meet MN's requirements, if known at the time of handoff. A CAR discovery protocol MUST determine a set of CARs that meet MN's requirements. For this, a CAR discovery protocol MUST provide means for the MN to express these requirements." _______________________________________________ Seamoby mailing list Seamoby@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby
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