RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements
"Hesham Soliman (ERA)" <hesham.soliman@era.ericsson.se> Fri, 11 January 2002 17:41 UTC
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From: "Hesham Soliman (ERA)" <hesham.soliman@era.ericsson.se>
To: "'Trossen Dirk (NRC/Boston)'" <Dirk.Trossen@nokia.com>, "Hesham Soliman (ERA)" <hesham.soliman@era.ericsson.se>, Phillip Neumiller <PNeumiller@meshnetworks.com>, Govind Krishnamurthi <govs23@hotmail.com>, seamoby@ietf.org
Cc: "Krishnamurthi Govind (NRC/Boston)" <Govind.Krishnamurthi@nokia.com>
Subject: RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements
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> some comments: > - requirements shouldn't mandate certain solutions. What > Phil proposed > was to make certain solutions mandatory. This is not about > being vague > or not. This is retricting the solutions (maybe for a > certain reason). > > - making the 'usage' or 'accomodation' of mobility > management features > a MUST restricts the solution space, too. Is a solution > prohibited, only > > because it does not rely on certain mobility management > features, even > if > the solution might be easier? => If we're designing things to be used, then yes you have to be compatible with existing (very related) protocols. What's the point of this work if it breaks mobility management as we know it today ? This should not be seen as a pure research exercise IMO, we need to design useable products. I'm not ruling out any new features or trying to make it work with MIP only, I'm saying don't break the existing solutions. I think this is a pretty straight forward request and we shouldn't dwell on it too much Hesham > > Regards, > > > > Dirk > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ext Hesham Soliman (ERA) [mailto:hesham.soliman@era.ericsson.se] > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 11:18 AM > To: Phillip Neumiller; Hesham Soliman (ERA); Trossen Dirk > (NRC/Boston); > Govind Krishnamurthi; seamoby@ietf.org > Cc: Krishnamurthi Govind (NRC/Boston) > Subject: RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements > > > Phil, > > > We seem to dance around in abstract space a lot in this WG. > > => Really ! :) > > > Isn't it time > > to get down to brass tacks? MIP has an implied > > architecture and it is not > > going away. Neither are many of the MANET protocols. What > > ever happened > > to the "running code" idea anyway? I don't see why we > have to be so > > very vague (which is occuring strictly to be pedantic about > > requirement- > > speak). There is an old adage that states if its not > > "testable" its not > > a requirement. > > => I agree, we should have clear and 'easy to test' > requirements. I was only explaining in generic terms > that requirements should not mandate solutions. In this > particular case, all I care about is that no optimisations > or features of existing MIP/MANET stuff is lost. > I don't care how it's done. > > Hesham > > > _______________________________________________ > Seamoby mailing list > Seamoby@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby > _______________________________________________ Seamoby mailing list Seamoby@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Govind Krishnamurthi
- [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Govind Krishnamurthi
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Phillip Neumiller
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Trossen Dirk (NRC/Boston)
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Govind Krishnamurthi
- Re: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements pdn (N9FCW) in FL
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Hesham Soliman (ERA)
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Trossen Dirk (NRC/Boston)
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Hesham Soliman (ERA)
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Phillip Neumiller
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Hesham Soliman (ERA)
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Trossen Dirk (NRC/Boston)
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Govind Krishnamurthi
- Re: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements James Kempf
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Hesham Soliman (ERA)
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Hesham Soliman (ERA)
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Trossen Dirk (NRC/Boston)
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Hesham Soliman (ERA)
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Govind Krishnamurthi
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Trossen Dirk (NRC/Boston)
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Phillip Neumiller
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- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Trossen Dirk (NRC/Boston)
- Re: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements John Schnizlein
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Trossen Dirk (NRC/Boston)
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Hesham Soliman (ERA)
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements John Schnizlein
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements John Schnizlein
- Re: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements James Kempf
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- Re: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements John Schnizlein
- Re: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Govind Krishnamurthi
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Govind Krishnamurthi
- Re: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements James Kempf
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Trossen Dirk (NRC/Boston)
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Hemant Chaskar
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Hesham Soliman (ERA)
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Hesham Soliman (ERA)
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Requirements Trossen Dirk (NRC/Boston)
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