Re: [Seamoby] Re: IP Paging Protocoly

On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 09:23:22AM -0800, James Kempf wrote:
> Vijay,
> 
> > People spend a lot of their time to come up with proposals.
> > and they also hope that their proposal goes somewhere in the
> > WG. and when the protocol assessment turns out to be murky
> > and they complain, I dont think it is right to call them 
> > "sour grapes".
> > 
> 
> I fully appreciate the amount of time people spend putting
> into their proposals and I was not trying to denigate that.
> A soccer team works hard to win a tournament, but after
> the game has been decided, they don't go around
> complaining about the result, at least, not if
> they are good sportsmen. It seems to me more than passing strange that
> the only people who have so far complained about the
> decision publically are people whose proposals weren't
> selected. Furthermore, authors of two of the
> drafts that were not selected have publically declared
> themselves ready to continue working with the working
> group, and it is really just the author of the third who
> continues to agitate against the decision. 

No authors would complain about the result if the winner selection 
process was as clear as succer game which is based on the total score.

Yoshihiro Ohba

> 
> If there was an outcry on the list from others, I would be more
> inclined to view the complaints seriously. In the past,
> the Seamoby list has not been short of people who
> were ready to jump out at the first sign of a technical
> controversy and express their opinions. I have not
> seen a single one of those people, either in SLC
> or on the list, stand up publically and say that they did
> not agree with the decision.
> 
> I've already agreed that the the decision process
> by which the selection was made was not
> transparent. I have some text that I have
> written which I hope will render more
> transparency to the process,  but I have
> not yet been able to get a time to
> talk with Pat and Allision about it.
> If you can just be patient, I will
> post the text as soon as we have
> had a chance to review it. Let's see if there
> are any complaints from neutral
> sources about the decision after
> I've posted that text.
> 
>             jak
> 
> 
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