RE: [Seamoby] CT Requirements Comments from IESG

"Gary Kenward" <gkenward@nortelnetworks.com> Wed, 10 July 2002 14:14 UTC

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From: Gary Kenward <gkenward@nortelnetworks.com>
To: 'James Kempf' <kempf@docomolabs-usa.com>, seamoby@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Seamoby] CT Requirements Comments from IESG
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Main Entry: meanĀ·ing 
Pronunciation: 'mE-ni[ng]
Function: noun

4 a : the logical connotation of a word or phrase 

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I propose, for section 5.5.2, to replace "meaning" with 
"original syntax and semantics", unless someone has a better
idea.

Gary

> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Kempf [mailto:kempf@docomolabs-usa.com]
> Sent: July 9, 2002 16:56
> To: Kenward, Gary [WDLN2:AN10:EXCH]; seamoby@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Seamoby] CT Requirements Comments from IESG
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gary Kenward" <gkenward@nortelnetworks.com>
> To: "'James Kempf'" <kempf@docomolabs-usa.com>; <seamoby@ietf.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 12:50 PM
> Subject: RE: [Seamoby] CT Requirements Comments from IESG
> 
> 
> > James:
> > 
> >   Sorry, but a small clarification: I did not say that 
> dynamic context 
> > was rejected, I said that I recalled that there was, at one time, a
> > requirement
> > that attempted to directly address dynamic context and the 
> need to update it
> > 
> > and that requirement was eventually removed. I think the 
> reason was the
> > difficulty
> > in defining "dynamic" versus "static" context, as Charlie 
> outlines in his
> > response.
> > 
> >   There is, however, a requirement, 5.5, that speaks to 
> context updates in
> > general:
> > 
> > 5.5 Context Update and Synchronization
> > 
> > 5.5.1 The context transfer protocol MUST be capable of updating 
> >       context information when it changes.
> > 
> > 5.5.2 A context update MUST preserve the integrity, and thus the
> >       meaning, of the context at each receiving AR.
> > 
> >    The context at the AR actually supporting an MN's traffic will
> >    change with time. For example, the MN may initiate new 
> microflow(s),
> >    or discontinue existing microflows. Any change of context at the
> >    supporting AR must be replicated at those ARs that have already
> >    received context for that MN.
> > 
> > I am now wondering why this requirement did not answer the 
> IESGs concerns?
> > Possibly because it does not explicitly mention "dynamic context" or
> > "dynamic
> > updates"? 
> > 
> 
> I suspect that is it. What is "meaning"? 
> 
>             jak 
> 
>