Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description

Behcet Sarikaya <behcet.sarikaya@alcatel.com> Thu, 17 January 2002 20:39 UTC

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Vijay,
  Really? Let me copy your email you sent on Jan. 14 :

>Hi Jim,
>
>just one comment.
>
>James Kempf wrote:
>
>>> 
>>>  Behcet,
>>> 
>>> Up until now, the only people who have expressed
>>> an opinion about the paging protocol decision were authors of protocols
>>> that
>>> were not selected. One could, quite frankly, view this as "sour grapes"
>>> on their part for not having been selected. However,
>>
>
>People spend a lot of their time to come up with proposals.
>and they also hope that their proposal goes somewhere in the
>WG. and when the protocol assessment turns out to be murky
>and they complain, I dont think it is right to call them 
>"sour grapes".
>
>Vijay
>
Was this not Vijay Devarapalli? If  not then my apologies.

>
>


Vijay Devarapalli wrote:

>Behcet,
>
>You are quoting me out of context.... my comment was not about
>the protocol assessment.
>
>Vijay
>
>Behcet Sarikaya wrote:
>
>>Several people not authors of proposals (Vijay, Rene) voiced their
>>concern on the murky assessment, or am I wrong, or are you waiting for
>>the sky to fall down?
>>
>>To be on the positive side, we can offer Majordomo based mailing list
>>support for the design team, if only with no WG draft.
>>
>>Take it or leave it.
>>
>>James Kempf wrote:
>>
>>>Any such decision is always subject to WG concensus.
>>>Unfortunately, the only voice we are hearing on the mailing list
>>>right now is yours. One voice isn't enough for concensus, nor
>>>is text from a private email forwarded and posted apparently without the
>>>author's permission. Goodness knows, we have enough vocal
>>>people on this list. It took us a year to get CT requirements
>>>done (and we still don't have them in IESG Last Call!) because
>>>everybody had an opinion. If I were seeing some of these people, who
>>>were not authors of competing proposals coming forward and
>>>saying that we should change the decison, it would be another
>>>matter.
>>>
>>>                   jak
>>>
>>--
>>Behcet
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Behcet