Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53
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Subject: Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 09:22:31 -0700
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Nobody can prevent someone from deploying the CARD on an AR. The point is the requirements should be clear that the primary function is for the MN. jak ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hemant Chaskar" <hchaskar@hotmail.com> To: <Karim.El-Malki@era.ericsson.se>; <govs23@hotmail.com>; <seamoby@ietf.org> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 8:19 AM Subject: RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 > Hi Karim: > > I am trying to understand the algorithmic perspective of the comment below > saying that "The MN should take the decision with hints from the network, > not the other way round." > > So, if there is an application on MN processor which takes one input as MN > requirements and other input as AR capabilities and provides certain output > (say boolean yes or no), is it acceptable approach? I guess yes. > > Now, suppose that there is this *same* application somewhere on processor of > some network entity taking the *same* inputs as above and providing the same > kind of output, is it acceptable approach? I guess it should be. > > So, is it the input and output information model of the application that > decides whether the approach in MN-centric or is it the location of the > processor executing the application as such that decides whether the > approach is MN-centric? I guess it is the former. > > Hemant > > > >From: "Karim El-Malki (ERA)" <Karim.El-Malki@era.ericsson.se> > >To: "'Govind Krishnamurthi'" <govs23@hotmail.com>, seamoby@ietf.org > >Subject: RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 > >Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 10:44:39 +0200 > > > > > I wasn't > > > >ruling out network involvement, but I couldn't understand why there > > > >was work on ARs only doing CAR discovery. Hope my point is > > > more clear > > > >now. Maybe I misinterpreted some emails and people are in agreement > > > >with this. I think Dirk's email at least was in line with what I > > > >have above (i.e. we need to focus on the MN's role and allow the > > > >network to assist where needed). > > > > > > [Govind] The main point is that the MNs requirements should be > > > taken into consideration when deciding on the TARs whether this > > > happens in the network or in the MN is upto the individual solution > > > (as long as it satisfies the requirements). > > > Hope these clarifies your concerns. > > > >Sorry I'm falling behind on this discussion and haven't read all the > >emails, > >but the point was that the decision is to be taken by the MN, not by the > >network. So what you write above about the decision happening in the > >network > >does not follow from the discussion so far. The MN should take the decision > >with hints from the network, not the other way round. > > > >/K. > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Seamoby mailing list > >Seamoby@ietf.org > >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Seamoby mailing list > Seamoby@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby > _______________________________________________ Seamoby mailing list Seamoby@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby
- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Hemant Chaskar
- [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 James Kempf
- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Glenn Morrow
- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Hemant Chaskar
- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Glenn Morrow
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 James Kempf
- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Karim El-Malki (ERA)
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Hemant Chaskar
- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Hemant Chaskar
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 James Kempf
- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Karim El-Malki (ERA)
- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Karim El-Malki (ERA)
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Eunsoo Shim
- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Dirk.Trossen
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Hemant Chaskar
- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Hemant Chaskar
- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Govind Krishnamurthi
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Eunsoo Shim
- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Karim El-Malki (ERA)
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Behcet Sarikaya
- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Gary Kenward
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Charles E. Perkins
- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Gary Kenward
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Behcet Sarikaya
- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Govind Krishnamurthi
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 James Kempf
- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Karim El-Malki (ERA)
- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Karim El-Malki (ERA)
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Hemant Chaskar
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Hemant Chaskar
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Phil Neumiller
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Eunsoo Shim
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Eunsoo Shim
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Eunsoo Shim
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Xiaoming Fu
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Xiaoming Fu
- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Singh Ajoy-ASINGH1
- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Glenn Morrow
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Eunsoo Shim
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Behcet Sarikaya
- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Singh Ajoy-ASINGH1
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Eunsoo Shim