Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description
Behcet Sarikaya <behcet.sarikaya@alcatel.com> Thu, 17 January 2002 18:50 UTC
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From: Behcet Sarikaya <behcet.sarikaya@alcatel.com>
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Subject: Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description
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Hello all, The assessment for IP Paging was supposed to be announced at WG meeting in SLC. And it did. The minutes of this meeting contained strange text in paging part because the paging part talking or presentation was done by Kempf and the minutes was also taken by Kempf. Kempf did the talking based on the slides, almost literally he was reading from the slides. The slides were not posted despite several repeated request that I made on the mailing list. Because of the admitted irregularity, i.e. one draft was eliminated by sparing no comments I declared the assessment results moot. Kempf now wishes to correct this irregularity by adding an additional text which includes his own comments and does not include other's comments, e.g. I made an assessment of draft-renker and no one seems to have commented otherwise. Kempf wishes to keep adding some new criteria , e.g. remove some text from the the assessment I-D all designed to keep his own personal conclusion of the assessment process. The fact is that the assessment team was composed of volunteers. Their evaluation is similar to evaluating papers submitted to a conference by some anonymous referees. In such cases the acceptance/ rejection is made based on the marks given by the referees, so how come we ignore the marks? The marks are very consistent with the way the assessment team was selected and the assessment was conducted. So we argued that draft-renker must have been declared the worst based on these marks. How should the assessment team be formed otherwise? I think that the people with recognized expertise in IP Paging should have been consulted as they do in MIP WG. There are such people. These are the issues I wanted to discuss with Kempf when I asked him to call me or give his phone number so that I can call. He refused. IP Paging can not be equivalent to what Kempf knows of it, it is much more than that. Regards, --behcet _______________________________________________ Seamoby mailing list Seamoby@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Behcet Sarikaya
- RE: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Pat R. Calhoun
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Cedric Westphal
- RE: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Pat R. Calhoun
- RE: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Pat R. Calhoun
- RE: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Hesham Soliman (ERA)
- [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description James Kempf
- RE: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Pat R. Calhoun
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Cedric Westphal
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Cedric Westphal
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Vijay Devarapalli
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description James Kempf
- RE: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Rajeev Koodli
- RE: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Muhammad Jaseemuddin
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Vijay Devarapalli
- RE: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Chitrapu, Prabhakar R
- RE: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1
- RE: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Pat R. Calhoun
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Rajeev Koodli
- Re: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Behcet Sarikaya
- RE: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Hesham Soliman (ERA)
- RE: [Seamoby] Paging Protocol Decision Description Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1