Re: [Seamoby] CT Requirements Comments from IESG
"James Kempf" <kempf@docomolabs-usa.com> Wed, 10 July 2002 16:17 UTC
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From: James Kempf <kempf@docomolabs-usa.com>
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Subject: Re: [Seamoby] CT Requirements Comments from IESG
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:09:14 -0700
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Hmm. So since there is no natural language conversation going on between these two routers, may I suggest that "meaning" is not a sufficiently precise word to use in this context? How about something along the lines of "usable to establish services on the new router" or something like that. jak ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Kenward" <gkenward@nortelnetworks.com> To: "'James Kempf'" <kempf@docomolabs-usa.com>; <seamoby@ietf.org> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 7:08 AM Subject: RE: [Seamoby] CT Requirements Comments from IESG Main Entry: meanĀ·ing Pronunciation: 'mE-ni[ng] Function: noun 4 a : the logical connotation of a word or phrase ------------ I propose, for section 5.5.2, to replace "meaning" with "original syntax and semantics", unless someone has a better idea. Gary > -----Original Message----- > From: James Kempf [mailto:kempf@docomolabs-usa.com] > Sent: July 9, 2002 16:56 > To: Kenward, Gary [WDLN2:AN10:EXCH]; seamoby@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Seamoby] CT Requirements Comments from IESG > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary Kenward" <gkenward@nortelnetworks.com> > To: "'James Kempf'" <kempf@docomolabs-usa.com>; <seamoby@ietf.org> > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 12:50 PM > Subject: RE: [Seamoby] CT Requirements Comments from IESG > > > > James: > > > > Sorry, but a small clarification: I did not say that > dynamic context > > was rejected, I said that I recalled that there was, at one time, a > > requirement > > that attempted to directly address dynamic context and the > need to update it > > > > and that requirement was eventually removed. I think the > reason was the > > difficulty > > in defining "dynamic" versus "static" context, as Charlie > outlines in his > > response. > > > > There is, however, a requirement, 5.5, that speaks to > context updates in > > general: > > > > 5.5 Context Update and Synchronization > > > > 5.5.1 The context transfer protocol MUST be capable of updating > > context information when it changes. > > > > 5.5.2 A context update MUST preserve the integrity, and thus the > > meaning, of the context at each receiving AR. > > > > The context at the AR actually supporting an MN's traffic will > > change with time. For example, the MN may initiate new > microflow(s), > > or discontinue existing microflows. Any change of context at the > > supporting AR must be replicated at those ARs that have already > > received context for that MN. > > > > I am now wondering why this requirement did not answer the > IESGs concerns? > > Possibly because it does not explicitly mention "dynamic context" or > > "dynamic > > updates"? > > > > I suspect that is it. What is "meaning"? > > jak > > _______________________________________________ Seamoby mailing list Seamoby@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby
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- Re: [Seamoby] CT Requirements Comments from IESG Charles E. Perkins
- RE: [Seamoby] CT Requirements Comments from IESG Gary Kenward
- Re: [Seamoby] CT Requirements Comments from IESG Vijay Devarapalli
- Re: [Seamoby] CT Requirements Comments from IESG James Kempf
- RE: [Seamoby] CT Requirements Comments from IESG Gary Kenward
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- Re: [Seamoby] CT Requirements Comments from IESG James Kempf
- RE: [Seamoby] CT Requirements Comments from IESG Gary Kenward
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- Re: [Seamoby] CT Requirements Comments from IESG James Kempf
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