Re: [Seamoby] Terminology Draft Needed

Jukka,

The issue is the following. Due to a difference between the security
terminology used in RFC 2002, which was also used in
draft-mobileip-ietf-aaa-key-08.txt, and standard IETF security
terminology, there was a misunderstanding about
the nature of the solution in the AAA keys draft that led the IESG
security reviewer to reject the draft. For example,
nowhere in the AAA keys draft does it talk about a session key, but, if
you read the draft, that is really what it is about. Since
the security terminology in RFC 2002 is, in some sense, fairly standard
in the mobile networking community,
it has been suggested that the terminology draft include a short (it
need not be lengthy) mapping between the
terminology used in RFC 2002 and standard IETF security terminology to
avoid this problem in the future.

Do you think this is doable?

            jak

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jukka Manner" <jmanner@cs.Helsinki.FI>
To: "James Kempf" <kempf@docomolabs-usa.com>
Cc: "Phil Neumiller" <pneumiller@meshnetworks.com>; <seamoby@ietf.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Seamoby] Terminology Draft Needed

>
> Hi,
>
> as I am the editor of the terminology draft, I would like to
> continue the work me and my colleagues started a year ago (yes, the
> terminology draft is today 1 year and 6 days old). Since the document
is
> already 28 pages long, I would rather add only a bare minimal set of
> security terminology, only the ones absolutely needed in
> Seamoby/MIP/MANET---a full security terminology would belong to
another
> WG.
>
> Second, the pointer Charlie gave is false. It is the old version
> from summer, although it somehow has the "03" in the name... hmm... A
new
> version has been on the IETF draft repository since November. This is
the
> right version to discuss:
>
>         Title           : Mobility Related Terminology
>         Author(s)       : J. Manner et al.
>         Filename        : draft-manner-seamoby-terms-03.txt
>         Pages           : 28
>         Date            : 28-Nov-01
>
> There is a need for common definitions of terminology in the work to
> be done around IP mobility. This memo defines terms for mobility
> related terminology. It is intended as a living document for use by
> the Seamoby working group, and especially for use in Seamoby drafts
> and in WG discussions. Other working groups dealing with mobility may
> also take advantage of this terminology
>
> A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-manner-seamoby-terms-03.txt
>
> Regards,
>
> Jukka
>
>
>
> On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, James Kempf wrote:
>
> > Phil,
> >
> > Pat and I were planning on sending a message out about this. I had
asked
> > Charlie for a pointer to
> > the draft, you have helpfully supplied it (see below). Thanx.
> >
> > So we have one strong endorsement of adopting the Charlie's
terminology
> > draft as a WG item.
> > Anyone else have strong feelings one way or the other on the issue?
> >
> >             jak
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Phil Neumiller" <pneumiller@meshnetworks.com>
> > To: <manet@itd.nrl.navy.mil>; <seamoby@ietf.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 6:39 AM
> > Subject: [Seamoby] Terminology Draft Needed
> >
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I have seen Charlie pull out the terminology draft at least a few
> > times! :-)  Why can't
> > > some WG chair in SeaMoby or MANET adopt it as WG draft?
> > >
> > > http://people.nokia.net/~charliep/txt/seamoby/term.txt
> > >
> > > It seems that many times arguments are over terminology.  IMO, I
would
> > like to
> > > the SeaMoby WG become a bridge between MANET and MIP technologies,
> > > especially with respect to AR discovery and CT.  This terminology
> > draft would make
> > > a very nice addition to the SeaMoby WG draft list.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Phil
> > >
> > >
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