Re: [Seamoby] CAR DiscoveryProtocol Requirements...
Vijay Devarapalli <vijayd@iprg.nokia.com> Fri, 21 December 2001 19:30 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Seamoby] CAR DiscoveryProtocol Requirements...
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Dirk, can you make IKE create an SA between two nodes (one having a public address and another having a private address)? does AAA route based on private address realm? as for as I know neither is possible. (maybe I am wrong). if an ISP wants context tranfer between two routers, let it allocate public addresses for both. Vijay "Trossen Dirk (NRC/Boston)" wrote: > > Hi Vijay, > > two comments: > - we are considering IPV4 as well IPV6, which brings naturally private > address spaces into play. As long as we are not considering entirely > public routers, any solution has to deal with this problem, which > therefore > makes it a requirement. > > - It's certainly debatable that it makes a solution 'very complicated', > in particular since I don't know what kind of 'measure' you applied > for your statement. However, I'm sure that every requirement on its own > makes the overall solution more complicated (this is certainly true for > some others on the list of requirements). However, removing requirements > > just for the sake of making life easier doesn't seem to be the right > way. > > Regards, > > Dirk > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Vijay Devarapalli [mailto:vijayd@IPRG.nokia.com] > > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 1:41 PM > > To: Trossen Dirk (NRC/Boston) > > Cc: Govind Krishnamurthi; seamoby@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [Seamoby] CAR DiscoveryProtocol Requirements... > > > > > > > > how about "it makes the CAR discovery protocol very > > complicated". > > > > and tell me why its there in the first place.. > > > > all other requirements are fine. > > > > Vijay > > > > "Trossen Dirk (NRC/Boston)" wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > is there any specific reason why you want to remove private > > > address space considerations? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Dirk > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: ext Vijay Devarapalli [mailto:vijayd@iprg.nokia.com] > > > > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 1:34 PM > > > > To: Govind Krishnamurthi > > > > Cc: seamoby@ietf.org > > > > Subject: Re: [Seamoby] CAR DiscoveryProtocol Requirements... > > > > > > > > > > > > hi all, > > > > > > > > Govind Krishnamurthi wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > To add to James' mail. Please let us know if any of these > > > > > requirements need to be modified or whether any other > > requirements > > > > > are needed. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Govind. > > > > > > > > > > REQUIREMENTS FOR CAR DISCOVERY PROTOCOLS > > > > > > > > > > > >1. MUST translate L2 Ids (APs and ARs) to L3 Ids of ARs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >2. MUST support L2 devices of different technologies > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >3. MUST support for L2 devices (and ARs) in > > > > private/site-local spaces > > > > > > > > Remove 3. everything else is fine. > > > > > > > > Vijay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >4. MUST communicate capability information between GAARs > > > > in a secure and > > > > > >reliable manner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >5. MUST use standard format for capabilities.. > > > > > > and this is TBD > > > > > > > > > > > >6. Protocol applicability - SHOULD (show of hands > > > > indicated that a MUST > > > > > >is needed here) support inter-domain as well as > > Intra-domain scope > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >7. MUST NOT introduce network elements dedicated to > > CAR discovery. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >8. SHOULD minimize involvement of ARs which are not > > GAARs in CAR > > > > > >discovery > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >9. MUST NOT depend on a particular mobility management protocol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > > > >Seamoby mailing list > > > > > >Seamoby@ietf.org > > > > > >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: > > > > http://messenger.msn.com > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Seamoby mailing list > > > > > Seamoby@ietf.org > > > > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Seamoby mailing list > > > > Seamoby@ietf.org > > > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby > > > > > > _______________________________________________ Seamoby mailing list Seamoby@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby
- [Seamoby] CAR DiscoveryProtocol Requirements... Govind Krishnamurthi
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR DiscoveryProtocol Requirements.… Hesham Soliman (ERA)
- Re: [Seamoby] CAR DiscoveryProtocol Requirements.… James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] CAR DiscoveryProtocol Requirements.… Vijay Devarapalli
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR DiscoveryProtocol Requirements.… Dirk.Trossen
- Re: [Seamoby] CAR DiscoveryProtocol Requirements.… Vijay Devarapalli
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR DiscoveryProtocol Requirements.… Trossen Dirk (NRC/Boston)
- Re: [Seamoby] CAR DiscoveryProtocol Requirements.… Vijay Devarapalli
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR DiscoveryProtocol Requirements.… Hesham Soliman (ERA)
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR DiscoveryProtocol Requirements.… Hesham Soliman (ERA)
- Re: [Seamoby] CAR DiscoveryProtocol Requirements.… James Kempf
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR DiscoveryProtocol Requirements.… Trossen Dirk (NRC/Boston)
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR DiscoveryProtocol Requirements.… Hesham Soliman (ERA)
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR DiscoveryProtocol Requirements.… Trossen Dirk (NRC/Boston)
- Re: [Seamoby] CAR DiscoveryProtocol Requirements.… Vijay Devarapalli
- [Seamoby] CAR Discovery Draft James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] CAR DiscoveryProtocol Requirements.… Hemant Chaskar
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR DiscoveryProtocol Requirements.… Qiang Zhang
- RE: [Seamoby] CAR DiscoveryProtocol Requirements.… Hesham Soliman (ERA)