RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53
"Karim El-Malki (ERA)" <Karim.El-Malki@era.ericsson.se> Wed, 17 April 2002 10:21 UTC
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From: "Karim El-Malki (ERA)" <Karim.El-Malki@era.ericsson.se>
To: 'Hemant Chaskar' <hchaskar@hotmail.com>, kempf@docomolabs-usa.com, seamoby@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 12:13:57 +0200
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> > > In a single interface handoff situation, Layer 2 typically > > > delivers the > > > AP or AR L2 identifier to which the MN will be handed over. This > > > information is required (by the MIP fast handover > algorithms) at the > > > MN's AR. So the issue is fairly simple: the AR must be > able to do > > > reverse address translation in order that it can contact the > > > other AR. > > > >This is not really applicable to Mobile-Initiated MIP Fast Handoff. > >In Mobile-initiated we consider the useful case where the > MN can recover > >the CAR IP address/es from the L2 trigger. The MN then sends a Proxy > >Router Solicitation (RtSolPr) to its curent AR containing > one or more CAR > >IP addresses. This means that the source AR already gets > the CAR addresses. > >So we can do without the AR doing translation or > discovering geographical > >adjacency. The MN can pass these CAR address/es to the > source AR for both > >single and multiple-interface MNs. So I think that the > conclusion from the > >meeting is compatible with MIP Fast Handoffs. > > > >/Karim > > [HC] I am wondering, if this useful case is genral enough. > In other words, > can MN always get IP addresses from AP beacons (or L2 > triggers) without > having to acquire connectivity with AP. More so, in single NIC case. [KEM] If you get a trigger at the MN you are somehow told that you have to move and this could contain the network's desired place where you should move (if it's multi-technology then one network may not know all that is possible). Here it is assumed that these are IP addresses or that the IP addresses can be easily recovered. The MN collects the full list of CAR addresses and decides. At least that's what I understood people wanted at the last meeting. Do you think it is not generic enough since it relies on IP addresses recovered from triggers? > > Also, could you please say what conclusion you are referring to. [KEM] I'm referring to the discussion about mobile-centric vs network-centric approaches related to Steve's presentation. I believe there was a consensus on mobile-centric, which favours a CAR discovery solution where the MN is involved and takes the decisions. /Karim _______________________________________________ Seamoby mailing list Seamoby@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby
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- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Glenn Morrow
- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Hemant Chaskar
- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Glenn Morrow
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 James Kempf
- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Karim El-Malki (ERA)
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Hemant Chaskar
- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Hemant Chaskar
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 James Kempf
- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Karim El-Malki (ERA)
- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Karim El-Malki (ERA)
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Eunsoo Shim
- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Dirk.Trossen
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Hemant Chaskar
- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Hemant Chaskar
- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Govind Krishnamurthi
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Eunsoo Shim
- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Karim El-Malki (ERA)
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Behcet Sarikaya
- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Gary Kenward
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Charles E. Perkins
- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Gary Kenward
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Behcet Sarikaya
- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Govind Krishnamurthi
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- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 James Kempf
- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Karim El-Malki (ERA)
- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Karim El-Malki (ERA)
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Hemant Chaskar
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Hemant Chaskar
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Phil Neumiller
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- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Eunsoo Shim
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Eunsoo Shim
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Eunsoo Shim
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- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Singh Ajoy-ASINGH1
- RE: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Glenn Morrow
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Eunsoo Shim
- Re: [Seamoby] Minutes for Meeting at IETF 53 Behcet Sarikaya
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