Re: [Seamoby] comments on the paging protocol assessment draft
"James Kempf" <kempf@docomolabs-usa.com> Fri, 21 December 2001 19:50 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Seamoby] comments on the paging protocol assessment draft
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 11:35:05 -0800
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Yoshi, > First thing is the process of selection. The criteria for selection > from the proposals, and the result should be included in the > assessment draft. Specifically, the selected protocol is the one > having the largest number of the lowest ratings, i.e., containing six > 1's, and neither having the largest number of the highest ratings nor > having the highest avarage rate. There is a logical leap between the > ratings and the final selection. So I think that selection team had > some criteria other than the ratings. > Yes, this wasn't clear. As I believe was discussed on the list, the final decision was not made by the selection team, it was made in consultation between the WG chairs and our AD. We based our decision on the selection team's assessment and recommended course of action(s). There was a judgement call involved, and the judgement was based to a certain degree on what requirements we felt were most important, in addition to process considerations. In particular, as I mentioned in my previous email to Behcet, independence from mobility protocol was considered a first priority requirement, because this has been a foundational principle of all Seamoby work. In addition, we did not want the protocol to be encumbered by or dependent upon the process of another working group, as this would set up a dependence between our work and the work of another working group that could result in delays. Finally, requirements originating out of the problem statement had higher priority than other requirements. So, for example, the requirement of indepenence of paging area from subnet topology was identified in the problem statement and therefore had higher priority. These requirements are ones that we believe will give IP paging an advantage over current practice, and therefore are likely to serve as an incentive for implementation and deployment. > And the second thing is that the comments that were posted by some of > the authors of the candidate protocols before the SLC meeting should > also be reflected to the assessment draft, if those comments are > relevant. > The assessment is meant to be a record of the assessment team deliberations and not a complete transcript of the working group's dialog on the process. The comments posted by the authors are part of the mailing list archive. However, I should probably remove the sentence in the abstract that says the assessment draft will make a recommendation, since it doesn't. Thank you for posting this. It is very important that the decision making process be transparent, and I agree that the WG chairs have not done a very good job of explaining it. I hope this makes things clearer. jak _______________________________________________ Seamoby mailing list Seamoby@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby
- [Seamoby] comments on the paging protocol assessm… Yoshihiro Ohba
- Re: [Seamoby] comments on the paging protocol ass… James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] comments on the paging protocol ass… Yoshihiro Ohba
- Re: [Seamoby] comments on the paging protocol ass… James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] comments on the paging protocol ass… Jari T. Malinen
- Re: [Seamoby] comments on the paging protocol ass… Yoshihiro Ohba
- Re: [Seamoby] framework for DMHA protocol Jari T. Malinen
- Re: [Seamoby] comments on the paging protocol ass… James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] comments on the paging protocol ass… James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] comments on the paging protocol ass… Yoshihiro Ohba
- Re: [Seamoby] comments on the paging protocol ass… James Kempf
- Re: [Seamoby] framework for DMHA protocol ralf.schmitz