Re: [secdir] [Jmap] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-jmap-core-12

"Neil Jenkins" <neilj@fastmailteam.com> Wed, 09 January 2019 04:29 UTC

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Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2019 23:29:03 -0500
From: Neil Jenkins <neilj@fastmailteam.com>
To: Tero Kivinen <kivinen@iki.fi>
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Subject: Re: [secdir] [Jmap] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-jmap-core-12
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On Wed, 9 Jan 2019, at 7:24 AM, Bron Gondwana wrote:
> *Neil:* is this something which you feel strongly enough to insist on keeping?

I've gone back to the original email to try to see what the original comment was, before we digressed into arguing over whether people are able to share individual mailboxes or not. As far as I can see the paragraph that raised the issue was this in section 1.6.2:

*A single set of credentials may provide access to multiple accounts, for example if another user is sharing their mail with the logged in user, or if there is a group account.*

And Tero would like to see the word *mail* changed to *calendar*? I mean, sure that can work equally well as an example. I don't really see the need for the change, but if that resolves the issue I'm happy to change it. *Tero* – can you please let me know what change you are looking for if it's more than this.

Neil.