Re: [secdir] SecDir Review for draft-ietf-trill-oam-mib-06
Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com> Tue, 18 August 2015 15:29 UTC
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Subject: Re: [secdir] SecDir Review for draft-ietf-trill-oam-mib-06
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Are you updating the draft or does Kathleen have to put a Discuss in? Thanks, Alia On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com> wrote: > thanks - the IESG generally begins reading drafts for the telechat about > now - a week in advance. > > Regards, > Alia > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Deepak Kumar (dekumar) <dekumar@cisco.com > > wrote: > >> Hi Alia, >> >> I will be able to take care of all comments over weekend. >> >> Thanks, >> Deepak >> >> From: Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com> >> Date: Thursday, August 13, 2015 at 10:44 AM >> To: "d3e3e3@gmail.com" <d3e3e3@gmail.com> >> Cc: dekumar <dekumar@cisco.com>, " >> draft-ietf-trill-oam-mib.all@tools.ietf.org" < >> draft-ietf-trill-oam-mib.all@tools.ietf.org>, Tissa Senevirathne < >> tsenevir@gmail.com>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, Yoav Nir < >> ynir.ietf@gmail.com>, secdir <secdir@ietf.org> >> Subject: Re: SecDir Review for draft-ietf-trill-oam-mib-06 >> >> Hi Deepak, >> >> Are you planning on publishing an updated draft today? >> I'd like to move the draft ahead to IESG Evaluation. >> >> Thanks, >> Alia >> >> On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> HI Deepak, >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 10:07 PM, Deepak Kumar (dekumar) >>> <dekumar@cisco.com> wrote: >>> > Hi Yoav, >>> > >>> > Thanks for review and comments. Please advise if we need to fix the >>> nits >>> > and comments and upload new version as I am not sure about procedure of >>> > fixing comments during last call. >>> > >>> > Tissa has moved out of Cisco and working in another Company, I don¹t >>> have >>> > privy of his new contact so I will contact him to get new contact and >>> > update the document also. >>> >>> I've added Tissa to the cc list above. I believe that for now he wants >>> to be listed with "Consultant" as his affiliation and with email >>> address <tsenevir@gmail.com>. >>> >>> The IETF LC ends the 13th, in a few days. I suggest that you update >>> the contact info for Tissa, spell out OAM, and update the >>> MODULE-IDENTITY, since those don't seem like they would be >>> controversial. For any changes to the Security Considerations text, I >>> suggest you post proposed text in this thread before editing it in. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Donald (Shepherd) >>> ============================= >>> Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) >>> 155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 USA >>> d3e3e3@gmail.com >>> >>> > Thanks, >>> > Deepak >>> > >>> > On 8/8/15, 2:18 PM, "Yoav Nir" <ynir.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> >>Hi. >>> >> >>> >>I have reviewed this document as part of the security directorate's >>> >>ongoing effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the >>> IESG. >>> >>These comments were written primarily for the benefit of the security >>> >>area directors. Document editors and WG chairs should treat these >>> >>comments just like any other last call comments. >>> >> >>> >>TL;DR: The document is ready with nits. >>> >> >>> >>The document contains a MIB for operations, administration, and >>> >>maintenance (OAM) of TRILL. As is common for such documents, 34 of its >>> 45 >>> >>pages is section 7 ("Definition of the TRILL OAM MIB module²). Being an >>> >>expert on neither TRILL nor MIBs I have mostly skipped that section. >>> >> >>> >>Usually with MIB documents, the security considerations for the >>> protocol >>> >>(several TRILL RFCs in this case) are in the protocol documents, while >>> >>the security considerations for SNMP are in the SNMP document (RFC >>> 3410). >>> >>The MIB document only points data that is sensitive (in terms of >>> privacy >>> >>or information leakage), and data which is dangerous in the sense that >>> >>falsified or modified data could lead to damage. >>> >> >>> >>In this document the Security Considerations section does a good job of >>> >>explaining that modified data can lead to changes in routing and >>> >>potentially to denial of service. The second paragraph is a little >>> >>hand-wavy for my taste: >>> >> >>> >> There are number of management objects defined in this MIB module >>> >> with a MAX-ACCESS clause of read-create. Such objects may be >>> >> considered sensitive or vulnerable in some network environments. >>> >> >>> >>What network environment? Why in some but not in others? The third >>> >>paragraph is similar: >>> >> >>> >> Some of the readable objects in this MIB module (objects with a MAC- >>> >> ACCESS other than not-accessible) may be considered sensitive or >>> >> vulnerable in some network environments. >>> >> >>> >>The section concludes with text that looks very familiar from other MIB >>> >>documents, basically saying that you should use SNMPv3 because it has >>> >>protections whereas earlier versions don¹t. It is also important to >>> have >>> >>proper access control rules. One nit is that the section says that the >>> >>cryptographic mechanisms in SNMPv3 provide ³privacy². As of late we >>> tend >>> >>to use that word for the protection of information about humans, not so >>> >>much about link status. >>> >> >>> >>A few general nits: >>> >> - In most documents that I see, the content of sections 1-4 is in a >>> >>single section. >>> >> - OAM is not expanded before first use. >>> >> - The MODULE-IDENTITY has ³TBD² for ORGANIZATION and authors¹ names in >>> >>CONTACT-INFO. looking at a few recent MIB documents, the working group >>> is >>> >>usually given as ORGANIZATION and its mailing list is given as contact >>> >>info. >>> >> >>> >>Yoav >>> >> >>> > >>> >>> >> >
- [secdir] SecDir Review for draft-ietf-trill-oam-m… Yoav Nir
- Re: [secdir] SecDir Review for draft-ietf-trill-o… Yoav Nir
- Re: [secdir] SecDir Review for draft-ietf-trill-o… Deepak Kumar (dekumar)
- Re: [secdir] SecDir Review for draft-ietf-trill-o… Donald Eastlake
- Re: [secdir] SecDir Review for draft-ietf-trill-o… Alia Atlas
- Re: [secdir] SecDir Review for draft-ietf-trill-o… Deepak Kumar (dekumar)
- Re: [secdir] SecDir Review for draft-ietf-trill-o… Alia Atlas
- Re: [secdir] SecDir Review for draft-ietf-trill-o… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [secdir] SecDir Review for draft-ietf-trill-o… Alia Atlas
- Re: [secdir] SecDir Review for draft-ietf-trill-o… Deepak Kumar (dekumar)
- Re: [secdir] SecDir Review for draft-ietf-trill-o… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [secdir] SecDir Review for draft-ietf-trill-o… Deepak Kumar (dekumar)
- Re: [secdir] SecDir Review for draft-ietf-trill-o… Yoav Nir