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Re: [secdir] [Cfrg] Time to recharter CFRG as a working group? Was: Re: ISE seeks help with some crypto drafts

Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> Mon, 18 March 2019 17:20 UTC

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Subject: Re: [secdir] [Cfrg] Time to recharter CFRG as a working group? Was: Re: ISE seeks help with some crypto drafts
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> On Mar 18, 2019, at 17:07, Watson Ladd <watsonbladd@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Forgive me for thinking this represents running code and rough consensus.

Consensus is not “vague stuff from the PROTOCOLS file”

> What is the benefit of turning  these enhancements into RFCs to the OpenSSH project?

Improved interoperability, more eyes looking at the protocols, facilitating an open internet without implicit vendor lock.

> Also other streams then the IETF one exist. So what actually is the problem that needs solving with SSH?

The standard should not be “bug compatible with the dominant implementation”

Paul

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