Re: [secdir] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-harkins-brainpool-ike-groups-00.txt

Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com> Wed, 29 August 2012 21:08 UTC

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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:08:07 -0400
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Subject: Re: [secdir] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-harkins-brainpool-ike-groups-00.txt
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802.11-2012 is pretty much as immutable as any RFC. I believe comments
are being collected with a view towards the next big roll-up document
which would incorporate amendments to 2012 adopted in the interim and
any other changes that are thought to be good. I believe it is
expected that this next 802.11 rollup will likely be published by the
IEEE in 2015 (and if so would, of course, be 802.11-2015).

Thanks,
Donald
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On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Tero Kivinen <kivinen@iki.fi> wrote:
> Stephen Farrell writes:
>> On 28 Aug 2012, at 12:24, Sean Turner <turners@ieca.com> wrote:
>> > BTW - Dan's submitted a draft about the topic we had in Vancouver.
>> > Comments are welcome.
>>
>> I've one: I didn't realize Dan wanted 14 code points. That seems a
>> lot.
>
> BTW, I think it was bit misstated in secdir lunch that the 802.11-2012
> cannot be changed anymore.
>
> IEEE started 54-day Comment Collection perioid for IEEE
> Std-802.11-2012 at 2012-07-20 and that will end 2012-09-12. I would
> expect that if they are still collecting comments for the draft it can
> also be still modified. Of course it might be that they are not
> willing to change it anymore, but at least I already submitted
> comments for requesting change (I proposed creating completely new
> registry copied from IKEv1 for just this SAE use, i.e. change text on
> page 1176 in subclause 11.3.4.1).
>
> I am not sure when they are going to go through comments, and as I am
> going to miss next interm IEEE meeting and next IEEE plenary meeting,
> I cannot be there to explain the situation if they go through comments
> there. Also if I have understood correctly this kind of change will
> most likely be Technical change which require 75% approval votes from
> voting members for the change to happen, so ...
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: "Stephens, Adrian P" <Adrian.P.Stephens@INTEL.COM>
> To: STDS-802-11@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> Subject: [STDS-802-11] IEEE 802.11 Comment Collection for IEEE Std
>          802.11-2012 Starts Today
> Date:         Fri, 20 Jul 2012 20:59:46 +0000
>
> IEEE 802.11(TM) Letter Ballot 802.11-2012_call_for_comments
> To: IEEE 802.11 Voters,
>
> With this email, the 802.11 Working Group is officially beginning the
> comment collection period for IEEE Std-802.11-2012.
>
> Important notes:
>
> o             There is a 54-day comment collection period.
>
> o             Anybody interested may provide comments.  Note that
>               access to the standard is required to provide comments.
>               A copy of the standard is on the members' area.  Those
>               who are not active can still comment provided they have
>               access to the standard from another source.
>
> o             Commenting is entirely optional.
>
> o             You have to cast a vote to comment using the ePoll tool,
>               but whether you vote yes or no is entirely irrelevant.
>               Comments can only be submitted using the ePoll tool.
>
> The comment collection opens on: Fri Jul 20, 2012 at 23:59 Eastern
> Time USA and closes 54 days later on Wed Sep 12, 2012 at 23:59 Eastern
> Time USA. (Add reminder to calendar).
>
> (The attached file contains a reminder set for 5 days before the close
> of the ballot. You may find it helpful to import this into or open
> this with your calendar client in order to get an automated reminder.)
>
> Thank you for participating in Letter Ballot 802.11-2012_call_for_comments.
>
> Bruce Kraemer, IEEE 802.11    Working Group Chair
> E-mail: bkraemer@marvell.com
>
> Adrian Stephens, IEEE 802.11   Working Group Vice Chair / Balloting
> Coordinator
> E-mail: Adrian.P.Stephens@intel.com
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