Re: [secdir] secdir review of draft-nottingham-http-new-status-03

Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Mon, 30 January 2012 16:09 UTC

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Cc: "draft-nottingham-http-new-status@tools.ietf.org" <draft-nottingham-http-new-status@tools.ietf.org>, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>, "ietf@ietf.org" <ietf@ietf.org>, "secdir@ietf.org" <secdir@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [secdir] secdir review of draft-nottingham-http-new-status-03
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Well,

a) this doesn't help for non-HTTPS traffic, anb

b) in case of a captive portal intercepting https traffic, we would 
expect a certificate error, no?

Anyway; this is not a security consideration specific to 511, but 
applies to captive portals in general, no matter whether the new status 
code is used or not. As such, it *could* be added to Appendix B.

Best regards, Julian

On 2012-01-30 16:22, Stephen Hanna wrote:
> Yes
>
> -Steve
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Julian Reschke [mailto:julian.reschke@gmx.de]
>> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 10:10 AM
>> To: Stephen Hanna
>> Cc: Mark Nottingham; draft-nottingham-http-new-status@tools.ietf.org;
>> secdir@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: secdir review of draft-nottingham-http-new-status-03
>>
>> On 2012-01-30 16:05, Stephen Hanna wrote:
>>> Mark,
>>>
>>> I don't want to rehash the discussion that we've already had.
>>> Clearly, you prefer brevity while I would prefer education in
>>> this instance.
>>>
>>> I can live with your text for status codes 428, 429, and 431. For
>>> 511, I don't think it's adequate to just say that big security
>>> issues already exist. You should at least give some suggestions
>>> for how to deal with them. For example, you could point out that
>>> most user agents include some indication of whether the server
>>> has been authenticated. For captive portals, this indication will
>>> generally not be displayed so the user receives some warning
>>> that the response did not come from the requested URL.
>>
>> Are you referring to HTTPS?
>>
>> Best regards, Julian
>