Re: [secdir] draft-ietf-ippm-more-twamp-02.txt
Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com> Tue, 02 June 2009 19:37 UTC
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From: Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com>
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Looks OK to me. Thanks, Donald ============================= Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-634-2066 (home) 155 Beaver Street Milford, MA 01757 USA d3e3e3@gmail.com On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Al Morton <acmorton@att.com> wrote: > Thanks for your comments, Donald, well-sorted through. > > I think the following will do it, > Al > > 5. Security Considerations > OLD > The extended mixed-mode of operation permits stronger security/ > integrity protection on the TWAMP-Control protocol while > simultaneously emphasizing accuracy or efficiency on the TWAMP-Test > protocol, thus making it possible to increase overall security when > compared to the previous options. > > NEW > The extended mixed-mode of operation permits stronger security/ > integrity protection on the TWAMP-Control protocol while > simultaneously emphasizing accuracy or efficiency on the TWAMP-Test > protocol, thus making it possible to increase overall security when > compared to the previous options (when resource constraints would > have forced less security for TWAMP-Control and where unauthenticated > TWAMP-Test is not a significant concern). > > > > At 03:04 PM 6/2/2009, Donald Eastlake wrote: >> >> I have reviewed this document as part of the security directorate's >> ongoing effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the >> IESG. Document editors and WG chairs should treat these comments just >> like any other last call comments. >> >> This draft does two things in connection with the Two-Way Active >> Measurement Protocol (TWAMP) a protocol which builds on the One-Way >> Active Measurement Protocol (OWAMP): >> (1) Add an extension whereby the TWAMP-Test protocol can be done >> in an unauthenticated mode while TWAMP-Control is authenticated and >> encrypted, where previously they had been required to have the same >> security mode. TWAMP-Control is used to initiate, start, and stop, >> etc. test sessions, while TWAMP-Test is used to exchange test packets. >> (2) The draft establishes an IANA registration called TWAMP-Modes >> for adding features. Establishing the IANA registry as such is not >> security relevant. >> >> This draft has a brief Security Considerations section. It >> incorporates by reference the lengthy Security Considerations in RFC >> 4656, which specified OWAMP, and from RFC 5357, which specifies TWAMP >> and adds considerations for one DoS attack which overlooked in RFC >> 4656. Generally, this incorporation by reference is adequate. >> >> However, the draft Security Considerations sections has one additional >> sentence which includes the words "thus making it possible to increase >> overall security when compared to the previous options". That would >> only be true if the additional burden, under previous options where >> both control and test had the same security mode, of securing both >> TWAMP-Control and TWAMP-Test was prohibitive, forcing less security >> for TWAMP-Control and where having TWAMP-Test unauthenticated is not a >> problem with respect to the security threats in the particular >> instance. I believe the Security Considerations section should be >> re-worded to either drop the claim of "increase overall security" or >> at least make it clear that the claim only applies under resource >> constraints that would, under previous modes, have forced less >> security for TWAMP-Control and where unauthenticated TWAMP-Test is not >> a significant security concern. >> >> Thanks, >> Donald >> ============================= >> Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-634-2066 (home) >> 155 Beaver Street >> Milford, MA 01757 USA >> d3e3e3@gmail.com > >
- [secdir] draft-ietf-ippm-more-twamp-02.txt Donald Eastlake
- Re: [secdir] draft-ietf-ippm-more-twamp-02.txt Al Morton
- Re: [secdir] draft-ietf-ippm-more-twamp-02.txt Donald Eastlake