Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunnels
Dong Zhang <zhangdong_rh@huaweisymantec.com> Mon, 14 September 2009 01:26 UTC
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:26:44 +0800
From: Dong Zhang <zhangdong_rh@huaweisymantec.com>
To: "Templin, Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunnels
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Hi Temlin, Please see inline. Templin, Fred L 2009-09-12 Wrote: >Brian, > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Brian E Carpenter [mailto:brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com] >> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:06 PM >> To: Templin, Fred L >> Cc: Christian Huitema; v6ops; ipv6@ietf.org; secdir@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunnels >> >> On 2009-09-12 09:13, Templin, Fred L wrote: >> >> (much text deleted) >> >> > Otherwise, the best solution IMHO >> > would be to allow only routers (and not hosts) on the >> > virtual links. >> >> This was of course the original intention for 6to4, so >> that any misconfiguration issues could be limited to presumably >> trusted staff and boxes. Unfortunately, reality has turned out >> to be different, with host-based automatic tunnels becoming >> popular. > >Thanks. I was rethinking this a bit after sending, and >I may have been too premature in saying routers only >and not hosts. > >What I would rather have said was that mechanisms such as >SEcure Neighbor Discovery (SEND) may be helpful in private >addressing domains where spoofing is possible. Let me know >if this makes sense. > IMHO, most of the threats of automatic tunnels, like ISATAP and 6to4, are resulting from spoofing. If SEND or CGA is possible to be used, many attacks could be mitigated. Thx. >Fred >fred.l.templin@boeing.com > >> >> Brian >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> IETF IPv6 working group mailing list >> ipv6@ietf.org >> Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ Dong Zhang 2009-09-14
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Templin, Fred L
- [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunnels Gabi Nakibly
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Rémi Denis-Courmont
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Gabi Nakibly
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Gabi Nakibly
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Rémi Denis-Courmont
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Rémi Després
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Gabi Nakibly
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Gabi Nakibly
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Gabi Nakibly
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Rémi Després
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Gabi Nakibly
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Gabi Nakibly
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Gabi Nakibly
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Gabi Nakibly
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Gabi Nakibly
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Gabi Nakibly
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Rémi Després
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Christian Huitema
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Gabi Nakibly
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Gabi Nakibly
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Gabi Nakibly
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Gabi Nakibly
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Dong Zhang
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Hesham Soliman
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Dong Zhang
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Gabi Nakibly
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Dmitry Anipko
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [secdir] Routing loop attacks using IPv6 tunn… Dmitry Anipko