Re: [secdir] Secdir review of draft-ietf-ipsecme-implicit-iv-07
Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu> Mon, 14 October 2019 23:35 UTC
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Subject: Re: [secdir] Secdir review of draft-ietf-ipsecme-implicit-iv-07
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Hi Magnus, Thanks for this review -- I filed a Discuss point about the inconsistency between the text and the codepoints for whether AES-CTR is covered. -Ben On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 10:46:30PM -0700, Magnus Nyström wrote: > I have reviewed this document as part of the security directorate's > ongoing effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG. > These comments were written primarily for the benefit of the security area > directors. Document editors and WG chairs should treat these comments just > like any other last call comments. > > This document defines a mechanism to save on bandwidth in ESP connections > when certain ciphers have been negotiated by using implicit IVs. The > savings are limited to 8 bytes for the current version of this document. > > > > - Section 2 mentions AES-CCM, AES-CTR, AES-GCM and ChaCha. For all of > these ciphers, an 8-byte nonce is used. The mechanism to make the IV > implicit is by coupling it to the sequence number. Yet, Section 4 gives two > examples of sequence numbers, one of 4 bytes and one of 8 bytes. This is > confusing, presumably only the extended sequence number is usable? > - Also, while the Abstract says the memo offers a mechanism to save on > the explicit IV also for AES-CTR, and Section 2 includes AES-CTR in its > description, Section 4 explicitly states that only AES-CCM, AES-GCM and > ChaCha are subject of the optimization in this memo. This is also > confusing. Why including AES-CTR in the memo at all if it isn't covered? At > the very least it seems the Abstract should be updated. > - It would be very helpful and useful to include an example of a > handshake with an IIV and the resulting IV in an Appendix; this could > assist implementors to get things right. > > > (Editorial: English grammar needs some updates/reviews) > > Thanks, > -- Magnus > _______________________________________________ > secdir mailing list > secdir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/secdir > wiki: http://tools.ietf.org/area/sec/trac/wiki/SecDirReview
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