Re: [secdir] secdir review of draft-ietf-morg-list-specialuse-05

Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> Tue, 14 December 2010 22:14 UTC

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Subject: Re: [secdir] secdir review of draft-ietf-morg-list-specialuse-05
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>> I can make this more explicit, if you think that's important, by
>> adding another paragraph:
>>
>>  Example: If a user is allowed to give the "\Junk" attribute to a
>> shared mailbox,
>>  legitimate mail that's misclassified as junk (false positives) will
>> be put into that
>>  shared mailbox, exposing the user's private mail to others.  The server
>> might
>>  warn a user of that possibility, or might refuse to allow the
>> specification to be
>>  made on a shared mailbox.  (Note that this problem exists independent of
>> this
>>  specification, if the server allows a user to share a mailbox
>> that's already in use
>>  for such a function.)
>>
>> Does that help, do you think?
>
> Personally, I think being expicit about this helps.  Your explanation ebove
> helps me as well.
>
> I'd like to see it in there but if you, or others feel that people familiar
> enough with IMAP to implement this don't need this extra warning, then I
> won't push it.

It's already in my working copy for the next rev.

Barry