Re: [secdir] [saag] Interest in draft-dong-savi-cga-header-03.txt; possibility of a five minute slot at saag?

Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf@mit.edu> Thu, 29 July 2010 08:13 UTC

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Subject: Re: [secdir] [saag] Interest in draft-dong-savi-cga-header-03.txt; possibility of a five minute slot at saag?
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>>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen Kent <kent@bbn.com> writes:

    Stephen> I agree that the primary motivation for CGAs arose in the
    Stephen> SeND context, and that privacy is an independent
    Stephen> feature. But, the context in which CGAs were intended to
    Stephen> provide an ability to establish a binding to an IPv6
    Stephen> address was local. When one moves beyond this local
    Stephen> context, and one advocates having more distant nodes
    Stephen> challenge a host, this creates privacy questions.

I think we've been looking at CGAs that have non-local scope for a
while.  Section 7.4 of RFC 3972 seems to anticipate CGAs used with other
protocols.  It's my understanding that shim6 supports both HBAs and CGAs
for non-local contexts.  I also believe the MIP6 context for CGA use is
non-local.