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Re: [secdir] secdir review of draft-ietf-opsec-protect-control-plane-04

"Glen Zorn" <gwz@net-zen.net> Wed, 15 December 2010 05:40 UTC

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Subject: Re: [secdir] secdir review of draft-ietf-opsec-protect-control-plane-04
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Carlos Pignataro (cpignata) [mailto://cpignata@cisco.com] writes:

...

> >> Section 3.1 says:
> >>
> >>  o  Permit RADIUS authentication and accounting replies from RADIUS
> >>     servers 198.51.100.9, 198.51.100.10, 2001:DB8:100::9, and 2001:
> >>     DB8:100::10 that are listening on UDP ports 1645 and 1646.  Note
> >>     that this doesn't account for a server using Internet Assigned
> >>     Numbers Authority (IANA) ports 1812 and 1813 for RADIUS.
> >>
> >> So, in other words, RADIUS traffic on the ports (officially assigned
> for
> >> more than ten years now) will be blocked.  This seems like a very
> poor
> >> example.
> 
> Please note that this was intentional, as a doc produced in Opsec we
> intended to make it as close to the operational reality we know as
> possible. And our perspective was that we see more 1645/1646.

There are lots of non-standard hacks in the wild; I don't think that it's
the job of the IETF to document them.

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