Re: [secdir] [OPSAWG] [Last-Call] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-opsawg-finding-geofeeds-06

Robert Kisteleki <robert@ripe.net> Thu, 06 May 2021 07:33 UTC

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To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>, Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org>
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On 2021-05-05 16:49, Randy Bush wrote:
>> the web pki is not associated with ip address space control/ownership.
>> web pki is based on control of domain name space.  the two are quite
>> unrelated.
> 
> note that the rpsl, the inetnum: objects, are not well secured and
> authenticated.  this is a bit embarrassing.  and, in some regions,
> the lack of authentication is notorious.
> 
> hence the hack to use the well-authenticated rpki to sign those data
> covered by it for those concerned with real authenticity.
> 
> randy

(somewhat shameless plug) there is https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7909 
that could be of assistance here.

Robert