Re: [secdir] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Uta] [Last-Call] Secdir telechat review of draft-ietf-uta-rfc7525bis-09

Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> Sat, 16 July 2022 18:12 UTC

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From: Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2022 11:12:22 -0700
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On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 11:32 PM Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 19:48 Peter Gutmann <pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz>
> wrote:
>
>> Andrei Popov <Andrei.Popov@microsoft.com> writes:
>>
>> >The TLS 1.3 adoption document you reference seems to be based solely on
>> Web
>> >browser data:
>
>
> Firstly, this comment is not true. The document covers many interactions.
> There are non-browser clients, embedded products, and server-to-server
> interactions in there.
>

Here is a more recent report:
https://www.f5.com/labs/articles/threat-intelligence/the-2021-tls-telemetry-report

I definitely agree that there are valid reasons to support 1.2. Further,
the document does a good job of explaining how to do that. I just don't see
a reason to require 1.2.

thanks,
Rob