Re: [secdir] [Cfrg] ISE seeks help with some crypto drafts

[Paul Wouters <[e-mail]>]

On Sun, 10 Mar 2019, Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL wrote:

>    While this phrasing would solve the issues for some protocols, such as IKE
>    and IPsec, it is still a request that the IETF publish a cryptographic
>    standard that cannot be freely used. The IETF normally does not do that
>    unless there are exceptional reasons to do so. It would be good to see
>    thse reasons written up for evaluation.
>
> It *can* be "freely used". That's the point of updating the IPR to make sure it is so.
>
> What happens to OCB use *outside* of the IETF standards is a separate question, which I don't care to entertain here and now.

But what does "outside the IETF" mean with respect to draft-krovetz-ocb-wideblock ?

It defines a cryptographic blockcipher method, not an internet protocol.

Does this mean this cryptographic blockcipher method used in a proprietary
or non-IETF standards or IETF experiments falls within or outside the
IETF for the purpose of licensing?

note I just realised Rich wasn't to blame when pointing me to RFC 7523,
instead of 7253, as the actual draft-krovetz-ocb-wideblock-00 makes that
mistake)

Paul