Re: [secdir] secdir review of draft-nottingham-http-new-status-03

Stephen Hanna <shanna@juniper.net> Mon, 30 January 2012 15:22 UTC

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From: Stephen Hanna <shanna@juniper.net>
To: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 10:22:05 -0500
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Yes

-Steve

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Julian Reschke [mailto:julian.reschke@gmx.de]
> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 10:10 AM
> To: Stephen Hanna
> Cc: Mark Nottingham; draft-nottingham-http-new-status@tools.ietf.org;
> secdir@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: secdir review of draft-nottingham-http-new-status-03
> 
> On 2012-01-30 16:05, Stephen Hanna wrote:
> > Mark,
> >
> > I don't want to rehash the discussion that we've already had.
> > Clearly, you prefer brevity while I would prefer education in
> > this instance.
> >
> > I can live with your text for status codes 428, 429, and 431. For
> > 511, I don't think it's adequate to just say that big security
> > issues already exist. You should at least give some suggestions
> > for how to deal with them. For example, you could point out that
> > most user agents include some indication of whether the server
> > has been authenticated. For captive portals, this indication will
> > generally not be displayed so the user receives some warning
> > that the response did not come from the requested URL.
> 
> Are you referring to HTTPS?
> 
> Best regards, Julian