Re: [secdir] Security review of draft-murdock-nato-nid-02

Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> Fri, 24 October 2014 13:22 UTC

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Thanks for the review, Ben.

>> "Distribution of NATO information in any form is subject to its
>> security policies. Nonetheless, this specification is for public
>> use and not subject to any NATO security policies."
>
> Which seems to involve some magical thinking (how do those
> security policies magically follow the information?)

Similarly, how does copyright magically follow any publication?  To
the extent, I guess, that there's legal recourse, and/or that people
are dissuaded from violating the policies by the threat or the
reminder.

Barry