Re: [secdir] secdir review of draft-vinapamula-softwire-dslite-prefix-binding-07

Daniel Kahn Gillmor <> Fri, 07 August 2015 17:08 UTC

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On Fri 2015-08-07 12:13:30 -0400, Dan Harkins wrote:
>   [ draft-vinapamula-softwire-dslite-prefix-binding-07 ]

>   The main part of the solution is the introduction of a "Subscriber
> Mask" that allows a subscriber's CPE to be unambiguously identified
> when the mask is applied to a source IPv6 address. This identification
> allows for enforcement of per-subscriber policies even in the event of
> an address change.
>   The Security Considerations are sparse but address a potential
> DOS issue with a misbehaving user attempting to obtain additional
> resources by changing the address on its Basic Bridging Broadband
> element which seems to be the big issue here. All the other
> Security Considerations of DS-Lite apply and it refers to RFC 6333.

I'm a bit puzzled by this document.  The Introduction says:

   Note that in some deployments, CPE renumbering may be required to
   accommodate some privacy-related requirements to avoid assigning the
   same prefix to the same customer.  It is out of scope of this
   document to discuss such contexts.

And then there is no mention of this concern ever again.  There is no
Privacy Considerations section (though the Security Considerations
section does mention one privacy consideration unrelated to the concern
raised in the Introduction).

Is it acceptable to simply declare privacy considerations out-of-scope
for an I-D?  What are the "privacy-related requirements to avoid
assigning the same prefix to the same customer"?  in what deployments
should they be considered? says:

   The guidance provided here can and should be used to assess the
   privacy considerations of protocol, architectural, and operational
   specifications and to decide whether those considerations are to be
   documented in a stand-alone section, within the security
   considerations section, or throughout the document.

Why are we considering these concerns (as important today as ever) "out
of scope" for the draft-vinapamula-softwire-dslite-prefix-binding?  How
is a potential deployer of this situation supposed to know whether their
context is one of the contexts where they should avoid this draft?

To be clear: i'm not asking that the draft indicate how someone in one
of these privacy-sensitive contexts should approach enforcement of
per-subscriber policies.  But shouldn't the draft help a potential
deployer to decide whether they are in a context where they should or
should not apply the proposed standard?