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max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: 'secdir' , draft-ietf-raw-technologies.all@ietf.org, 'Last Call' X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.9rc6 Precedence: list Subject: =?utf-8?q?=5Bsecdir=5D_Re=3A_SECDIR_telechat_review_of_draft-ietf-raw-techno?= =?utf-8?q?logies-15?= List-Id: Security Area Directorate Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_073B_01DBA310.6C0A2510 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Don,=20 =20 All done in = Diff: = draft-ietf-raw-technologies-15.txt - draft-ietf-raw-technologies-16.txt =20 Many thanks again ! =20 Pascal =20 De : Donald Eastlake =20 Envoy=C3=A9 : lundi 31 mars 2025 18:05 =C3=80 : iesg@ietf.org Cc : secdir ; draft-ietf-raw-technologies.all@ietf.org; = Last Call Objet : SECDIR telechat review of draft-ietf-raw-technologies-15 =20 I have reviewed this document as part of the security directorate's = ongoing effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG. = Document editors and WG chairs should treat these comments just like any = other last call comments. The summary of the review is Ready. I have reviewed this document as part of the security directorate's ongoing effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG. Document editors and WG chairs should treat these comments just like any other last call comments. The summary of the review is Ready. I previously reviewed this document here: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/secdir/UsGPRGLtTcy7Kh4YaT4lUbn5PUs and consider my comments there to have been resolved. Security -------- Given that this is a survey document for which security is generally out of scope, I consider the very brief Security Considerations section to be satisfactory. Two Minor Comments ------------------ The first paragraph of Section 4 seems to imply that 802.11 is no longer trying for better speed. It is true that reliability is now more of a focus. The current big effort is 802.11bn which does emphasize reduced loss and reduced latency but still includes a goal of 25% higher throughput. I suggest the following wording change: OLD In the recent years, the evolution of the IEEE Std 802.11 standard is taking a new direction, looking not any more for more speed, but also for reliability, to enable new fields of application such as Industrial IoT and Virtual Reality. NEW In the recent years, the evolution of the IEEE Std 802.11 standard has taken a new direction, emphasizing improved reliability and reduced latency as well as minor improvements in speed, to enable new fields of application such as Industrial IoT and Virtual Reality. There is one occurrence of "(WFA)" in the document which I think should = be changed to "[WFA]" since [WFA] has been added to the References. Thanks, Donald =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) 2386 Panoramic Circle, Apopka, FL 32703 USA d3e3e3@gmail.com =20 =20 Thanks, Donald =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) 2386 Panoramic Circle, Apopka, FL 32703 USA d3e3e3@gmail.com =20 ------=_NextPart_000_073B_01DBA310.6C0A2510 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Don,

 

All done in Diff: draft-ietf-raw-technologies-15.txt - = draft-ietf-raw-technologies-16.txt

 

Many thanks again !

 

Pascal

 

De : Donald = Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com>
Envoy=C3=A9 : lundi 31 = mars 2025 18:05
=C3=80 : = iesg@ietf.org
Cc : secdir <secdir@ietf.org>; = draft-ietf-raw-technologies.all@ietf.org; Last Call = <last-call@ietf.org>
Objet : SECDIR telechat review = of draft-ietf-raw-technologies-15

 

I = have reviewed this document as part of the security directorate's = ongoing effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the = IESG. Document editors and WG chairs should treat these comments = just like any other last call comments.

The summary of the review is = Ready.

I have reviewed this document = as part of the security directorate's
ongoing effort to review all = IETF documents being processed by the
IESG. Document editors and WG = chairs should treat these comments just
like any other last call = comments.

The summary of the review is Ready.

I previously = reviewed this document here:
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/secdir/UsGPRGLtTcy7Kh4YaT4= lUbn5PUs
and consider my comments there to have been = resolved.

Security
--------

Given that this is a survey = document for which security is generally
out of scope, I consider the = very brief Security Considerations
section to be = satisfactory.

Two Minor Comments
------------------

The = first paragraph of Section 4 seems to imply that 802.11 is no
longer = trying for better speed. It is true that reliability is now
more of a = focus. The current big effort is 802.11bn which does
emphasize = reduced loss and reduced latency but still includes a goal
of 25% = higher throughput. I suggest the following wording = change:
OLD
   In the recent years, the evolution of the = IEEE Std 802.11 standard is
   taking a new direction, = looking not any more for more speed, but also
   for = reliability, to enable new fields of application such as
  =  Industrial IoT and Virtual Reality.
NEW
   In the = recent years, the evolution of the IEEE Std 802.11 standard
  =  has taken a new direction, emphasizing improved reliability = and
   reduced latency as well as minor improvements in = speed, to enable
   new fields of application such as = Industrial IoT and Virtual
   Reality.

There is one = occurrence of "(WFA)" in the document which I think should be = changed to "[WFA]" since [WFA] has been added to the = References.

Thanks,
Donald
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
 Don= ald E. Eastlake 3rd   +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
 2386 = Panoramic Circle, Apopka, FL 32703 USA
 d3e3e3@gmail.com

 

Thanks,
Donald
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
 Donald= E. Eastlake 3rd   +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
 2386 Panoramic = Circle, Apopka, FL 32703 USA
 d3e3e3@gmail.com

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