Re: [secdir] review of draft-ietf-netconf-nmda-restconf-04
Daniel Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org> Wed, 04 July 2018 18:08 UTC
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Subject: Re: [secdir] review of draft-ietf-netconf-nmda-restconf-04
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On 7/4/18 5:41 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > On Tue, Jul 03, 2018 at 11:32:35AM -0700, Daniel Harkins wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I have reviewed this document as part of the security directorate's >> ongoing effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the >> IESG. These comments were written primarily for the benefit of the >> security area directors. Document editors and WG chairs should treat >> these comments just like any other last call comments. >> >> The summary of the review is "Ready with nits". >> >> This draft defines two new capability identifier URNs for use in >> the RESTCONF protocol and also some new behavioral requirements on >> servers implementing it. My nit is on that last bit. In sections >> 3.2.1 and 3.2.2 present the new query parameters and say that they >> are "optional to support" and then go on saying what behavior is >> needed if it is supported. I think those need to be changed to be >> RFC 2119 words, either SHOULD or MAY depending on the reasons that >> might exist for not implementing them (basically conform to what >> the words mean in RFC 2119). >> > I am not sure where exactly we are asked to use SHOULD and MAY and why > that would be necessary. Note that we follow the wordings in RFC 8040 > (search for optional), which this document updates. I'm suggesting SHOULD _or_ MAY and I thought where would be obvious. It is the places that say "optional to support" in 3.2.1. and 3.2.2 as I indicated. For example, 3.2.1 says, The "with-defaults" query parameter ([RFC8040], Section 4.8.9 <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8040#section-4.8.9>) is optional to support when interacting with {+restconf}/ds/ietf- datastores:operational. 3.2.2 has similar text. As to why, it is for consistency and clarity in expressing what you want. Dan.
- Re: [secdir] review of draft-ietf-netconf-nmda-re… Kent Watsen
- Re: [secdir] review of draft-ietf-netconf-nmda-re… Mahesh Jethanandani
- Re: [secdir] review of draft-ietf-netconf-nmda-re… Daniel Harkins
- Re: [secdir] review of draft-ietf-netconf-nmda-re… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- [secdir] review of draft-ietf-netconf-nmda-restco… Daniel Harkins
- Re: [secdir] review of draft-ietf-netconf-nmda-re… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [secdir] review of draft-ietf-netconf-nmda-re… Daniel Harkins
- Re: [secdir] review of draft-ietf-netconf-nmda-re… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [secdir] review of draft-ietf-netconf-nmda-re… Daniel Harkins
- Re: [secdir] review of draft-ietf-netconf-nmda-re… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [secdir] review of draft-ietf-netconf-nmda-re… Mahesh Jethanandani