Re: [secdir] SECDIR review of draft-ietf-hokey-key-mgm
"Hoeper Katrin-QWKN37" <khoeper@motorola.com> Tue, 11 August 2009 22:28 UTC
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From: Hoeper Katrin-QWKN37 <khoeper@motorola.com>
To: Glen Zorn <glenzorn@comcast.net>, Kurt Zeilenga <Kurt.Zeilenga@Isode.com>
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Subject: Re: [secdir] SECDIR review of draft-ietf-hokey-key-mgm
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Please find my reply to Glen's comments in-line. Katrin > -----Original Message----- > From: Glen Zorn [mailto:glenzorn@comcast.net] > Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 8:24 PM > To: 'Kurt Zeilenga' > Cc: secdir@ietf.org; iesg@ietf.org; draft-ietf-hokey-key- > mgm@tools.ietf.org; gwz@net-zen.net > Subject: RE: [secdir] SECDIR review of draft-ietf-hokey-key-mgm ><snip> > Thanks for pointing that out. In fact, the document should _not_ talk > about > the use of KDE in ERP, since it doesn't exist ;-). Re-re-re-reading ;-) > section 6 (which is what I think you are talking about?), I noticed > A couple of other errors, too. For example, section 3 says "Here, > EAP-Initiate and EAP-Finish messages are exchanged between the peer and > the > home AAA server, with the bootstrapping flag in the EAP-Initiate message > set"; unfortunately, this is impossible, since the peer and AAA server do > not speak the same protocol. Another example of the same kind of fuzzy > writing is in the second paragraph of the same section: "In this case, the > local ER server requesting the DSRK MUST include a KDE-Request message in > the first EAP-Response message from the peer". This _should_ say " In > this case, the local ER server requesting the DSRK MUST include a > KDE-Request message in the AAA packet encapsulating the first EAP-Response > message from the peer" in order to agree with RFC 5296 (in fact, though, > there's no need for the local ERP server to be involved in this at all, > except that that is (erroneously, I think) specified in 5296). > > ... > [KH] Glen, I think you are talking about Section 5 not 3, are you looking at the current version (http://ietfreport.isoc.org/all-ids/draft-ietf-hokey-key-mgm-09.txt)? Could you please re-check? I am sure your comments still apply, but I'd like to know which parts are affected. AFAIK, Section 5 is in complete alignment with RFC 5296 and uses the same terminology and same protocol description. I understand that there are some problems in RFC 5296 and there is a request for errata (http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=5296&eid=1825). Should I wait until this (and possibly other) errata has been approved and then modify the key management draft accordingly? If I make changes now, with the current RFC 5296, we would have a description on how to use KDE with ERP that does not match the description in RFC 5296.
- [secdir] SECDIR review of draft-ietf-hokey-key-mgm Kurt Zeilenga
- Re: [secdir] SECDIR review of draft-ietf-hokey-ke… Glen Zorn
- Re: [secdir] SECDIR review of draft-ietf-hokey-ke… Kurt Zeilenga
- Re: [secdir] SECDIR review of draft-ietf-hokey-ke… Glen Zorn
- Re: [secdir] SECDIR review of draft-ietf-hokey-ke… Kurt Zeilenga
- Re: [secdir] SECDIR review of draft-ietf-hokey-ke… Glen Zorn
- Re: [secdir] SECDIR review of draft-ietf-hokey-ke… Hoeper Katrin-QWKN37
- Re: [secdir] SECDIR review of draft-ietf-hokey-ke… Glen Zorn
- Re: [secdir] SECDIR review of draft-ietf-hokey-ke… Hoeper Katrin-QWKN37
- Re: [secdir] SECDIR review of draft-ietf-hokey-ke… Hoeper Katrin-QWKN37
- Re: [secdir] SECDIR review of draft-ietf-hokey-ke… Kurt Zeilenga