Re: [secdir] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-msd-16

[Benjamin Kaduk <[e-mail]>]

Hi Les,

I'm happy to leave this question to Alvaro's judgment; as you know, I
included it in the non-blocking portion of my ballot position.

I appreciated the dedication and rigor you put into your service as a DE,
and hope that all DEs can do the same.

Thanks,

Benjamin

On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 05:26:19AM +0000, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) wrote:
> Benjamin -
> 
> It is not my intent to engage in a debate with you.
> 
> I serve as Designated Expert for a number of IS-IS registries. I consider it my responsibility to understand the technical content of the drafts which make changes to the registries for which I serve in this role. I do not look for or expect technical content in the IANA sections - I only expect them to be accurate in terms of the changes requested/completed to the registries.
> 
> I have no doubt that we still disagree. If there is some consensus to make changes I will certainly listen - but if left up to me I would leave the IANA section as is.
> 
>    Les
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Benjamin Kaduk <[e-mail]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 6:21 PM
> > To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <[e-mail]>
> > Cc: David Waltermire <[e-mail]>; [e-mail];
> > [e-mail]; [e-mail]; [e-mail]
> > Subject: Re: Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-msd-16
> > 
> > On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 11:24:31PM +0000, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) wrote:
> > > Benjamin -
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Please review https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8126#section-1.1
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In particular (emphasis added):
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > " The purpose of having a dedicated IANA Considerations section is to
> > >
> > >    provide a single place to collect clear and concise information and
> > >
> > >    instructions for IANA.  Technical documentation should reside in
> > >
> > >    other parts of the document…”
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I think what you propose is not consistent with the intent of the IANA
> > section.
> > 
> > What about Section 1.1, "guidance describing the conditions under which
> > new values should be assigned [...] is needed", or section 1.3's checklist:
> > 
> >    7.  If you're using a policy that requires a designated expert
> >        (Expert Review or Specification Required), understand Section 5
> >        and provide review guidance to the designated expert (see
> >        Section 5.3).
> > 
> > Section 4.5 (Expert Review) even goes into more detail, though I'll stop
> > quoting now.
> > 
> > -Benjamin