Re: [secdir] secdir review of draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profile-04

Fred Baker <fred@cisco.com> Sun, 01 September 2013 21:55 UTC

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From: Fred Baker <fred@cisco.com>
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Wearing shepherd hat...

I assume you'll have an updated document posted soon. Please work with Simon and make sure he's satisfied with the updates.

On Aug 31, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> wrote:

> I have reviewed this document as part of the security directorate's 
> ongoing effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the 
> IESG.  These comments were written primarily for the benefit of the 
> security area directors.  Document editors and WG chairs should treat 
> these comments just like any other last call comments.
> 
> This (informational) document list a set of features a 3GPP device is
> supposed to be compliant with.  The document contain pointers to other
> protocols/specifications which contains the real security
> considerations for those protocols.  As such, I don't think there could
> be any significant security issue with this document.  Hence my take
> is that the document is Ready with nits (see below).
> 
> A notable point is that there is no discussion or references to IPSec
> in the document, nor any of the IPv6 "bugs" (e.g., RFC 5722 and RFC
> 6946).  There may be other document that could be referenced that would
> lead to improved security, but it is hard to list them all.
> 
> This document seems related to draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc3316bis which
> describe another IPv6 profile for 3GPP hosts.  The utility of having
> two different IPv6 profiles for 3GPP hosts could be discussed, but it
> is only a security issue in the marginal sense that complexity often
> leads to poor security.
> 
> The security considerations of this document is only pointers to
> the security considerations of RFC3316bis, RFC6459, and RFC6092 which
> feels underwhelming to me -- especially since the RFC3316bis security
> consideration is for the particular profile that RFC3316bis defines.
> The security considerations of RFC3316bis wouldn't automatically apply
> to the profile defined by draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profile since
> the profiles are different.
> 
> Other notes:
> 
> * The document uses RFC 2119 language "for precision", although I don't
>  understand what it means for an Informational document to contain
>  MUST languages.
> 
> * The document really really should reference RFC 2460.
> 
> * The security consideration contains normative text (REQ#34) that
>  typically go into the core part of a document.
> 
> * I found REQ#32 a bit too generalized.  I believe it is common for
>  applications to be aware of whether connections are over IPv4 or IPv6
>  and behave differently.
>> REQ#32:  Applications MUST be independent of the underlying IP
>>      address family. This means applications must be IP version
>>      agnostic.
> 
> /Simon

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