Re: [secdir] draft-ietf-appsawg-greylisting-06.txt SECDIR review

"Murray S. Kucherawy" <msk@cloudmark.com> Sun, 15 April 2012 03:10 UTC

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From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <msk@cloudmark.com>
To: Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com>, "iesg@ietf.org" <iesg@ietf.org>, "secdir@ietf.org" <secdir@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-appsawg-greylisting.all@tools.ietf.org" <draft-ietf-appsawg-greylisting.all@tools.ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [secdir] draft-ietf-appsawg-greylisting-06.txt SECDIR review
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Hi Donald.  Thanks for your review.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Donald Eastlake [mailto:d3e3e3@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 6:44 PM
> To: iesg@ietf.org; secdir@ietf.org; draft-ietf-appsawg-greylisting.all@tools.ietf.org
> Subject: draft-ietf-appsawg-greylisting-06.txt SECDIR review
> 
> The technique is very much heuristic so security consideration are,
> reasonably, fairly soft rather than the precise, hard edged
> formulations of cryptographic security. The discussion of variations in
> grey listing, typical spammer behavior, and potential spammer
> countermeasures all seem quite reasonable and complete. I do not think
> any additional security considerations are required.
> 
> EDITORIAL
> 
> In one place the draft says "when delivery of mail is timely." when I
> think it means "when delivery of mail is time critical." or "when
> delivery of mail must be timely.".

Indeed you're right on that point.  I'll adjust it after LC closes.

Thanks,
-MSK