Re: [secdir] [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-jsonbis-rfc7159bis-03
Stefan Hagen <stefan@dilettant.eu> Mon, 13 March 2017 16:02 UTC
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From: Stefan Hagen <stefan@dilettant.eu>
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Subject: Re: [secdir] [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-jsonbis-rfc7159bis-03
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Yes, tired is a good match && I second the proposed change. "Stefan" On 13/03/17 08:51, Martin J. Dürst wrote: > On 2017/03/13 15:23, Julian Reschke wrote: >> On 2017-03-13 00:07, Elwyn Davies wrote: > >>> Does the WG really want to revisit the anguished discussions that >>> resulted in the changes to Section 8.1 of draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis >>> between versions 07 and 08 back in late November 2013? >>> >>> See https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/json/current/msg02053.html and >>> many, many messages beore this. > >> No, but on the other hand, we should acknowledge that apparently the >> text both about what's mandatory and how auto detection works is not as >> clear as it should. > > It looks to me as if at the time of the above message in the WG, the > chairs were successful in presenting a consensus, probably at a stage > when the participants in the discussion where getting tired. > > It seems that when put in the wider context of the IETF, that compromise > now looks somewhat shaky. > > My personal opinion is that we could try to fix this by changing the > following: > >>>>> > JSON text SHALL be encoded in UTF-8, UTF-16, or UTF-32 [UNICODE] > (Section 3). The default encoding is UTF-8, and JSON texts that are > encoded in UTF-8 are interoperable in the sense that they will be > read successfully by the maximum number of implementations; there are > many implementations that cannot successfully read texts in other > encodings (such as UTF-16 and UTF-32). >>>>> > > to something like the following: > >>>>> > JSON text SHOULD be encoded in UTF-8 [UNICODE] > (Section 3). JSON texts that are > encoded in UTF-8 are interoperable in the sense that they will be > read successfully by the maximum number of implementations. > > There are > many implementations that cannot successfully read texts in other > encodings (such as UTF-16 and UTF-32). JSON text MAY be encoded in > UTF-16 or UTF-32 [UNICODE] (Section 3) if the sender is sure that > the intended recipients can read them. >>>>> > > That should then go together with a MIME registration that only lists > UTF-8. > > Regards, Martin. > > _______________________________________________ > json mailing list > json@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/json
- [secdir] secdir review of draft-ietf-jsonbis-rfc7… Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [secdir] secdir review of draft-ietf-jsonbis-… Barry Leiba
- Re: [secdir] secdir review of draft-ietf-jsonbis-… Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [secdir] secdir review of draft-ietf-jsonbis-… Julian Reschke
- Re: [secdir] [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-j… Julian Reschke
- Re: [secdir] [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-j… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [secdir] [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-j… Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [secdir] [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-j… John Cowan
- Re: [secdir] [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-j… Julian Reschke
- Re: [secdir] [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-j… Ned Freed
- Re: [secdir] [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-j… John Cowan
- Re: [secdir] [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-j… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [secdir] [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-j… Peter Cordell
- Re: [secdir] [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-j… Julian Reschke
- Re: [secdir] [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-j… Ned Freed
- Re: [secdir] [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-j… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [secdir] [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-j… Elwyn Davies
- Re: [secdir] [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-j… Julian Reschke
- Re: [secdir] [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-j… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [secdir] [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-j… Julian Reschke
- Re: [secdir] [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-j… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [secdir] [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-j… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [secdir] [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-j… Stefan Hagen
- Re: [secdir] [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-j… Stefan Hagen
- Re: [secdir] [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-j… Peter Cordell
- Re: [secdir] [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-j… Peter Cordell
- Re: [secdir] [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-j… Matthew A. Miller
- Re: [secdir] [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-j… Nico Williams
- Re: [secdir] [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-j… Nico Williams
- Re: [secdir] [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-j… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [secdir] [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-j… Julian Reschke
- Re: [secdir] [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-j… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [secdir] [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-j… John Cowan
- Re: [secdir] [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-j… Peter Cordell
- Re: [secdir] [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-j… Julian Reschke
- Re: [secdir] [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-j… Peter Cordell
- Re: [secdir] [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-j… Julian Reschke
- Re: [secdir] [Json] secdir review of draft-ietf-j… Alexey Melnikov