Re: [secdir] [Last-Call] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-roll-aodv-rpl-09

Tero Kivinen <kivinen@iki.fi> Tue, 30 March 2021 09:15 UTC

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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2021 12:14:53 +0300
From: Tero Kivinen <kivinen@iki.fi>
To: Charlie Perkins <charles.perkins@earthlink.net>
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Subject: Re: [secdir] [Last-Call] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-roll-aodv-rpl-09
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Charlie Perkins writes:
> Hello Tero,
> 
> Thanks for your comments, useful as always.  Please see a bit of 
> follow-up below.
> 
> 
> On 3/22/2021 9:41 AM, Tero Kivinen via Datatracker wrote:
> > The title of the draft has some acronyms which are not expanded (AODV, P2P) and
> > if you expand them the title comes way too long. I would propose a usable
> > title, which might not need to use all possible acronyms, but would better
> > explain what this document is trying to do.
> 
> How about "Supporting Asymmetric Links in Low Power Networks"? Replacing 
> "LLNs" by "Low Power Networks" is probably O.K. because lossy is almost 
> implicit given low power (or, often, reality).

Thats much better. From that I can even understand what is the
difference between this and previous work, i.e., that the important
difference is the asymmetric, not p2p or aodv etc...

> > Nits:
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